3.17 changelist

[OzzyKP]

[Arrian]

Huzzah.

-Arrian

[Virulent]

Is the Mesoamerica mod a fan mod? Or is it an in-house Firaxis mod?

[snoopy369]

fed: That surprises me, it looks like it's the same save version. Oh well.

Virulent: I believe it is an in-house mod.

[Beta]

Nice!!! Many thanks Alex et al.

[Colm]

Originally posted by CyberShy


more

I just checked and it's indeed more. I now get an average of 150 gold per hut. 1 even gave me 204!

[DirtyMartini]

I think I must be psychic. I haven't even visited this site in several months. I finally get around to checking in and lo and behold, a new patch has just been released. Goodbye super buggy and frustrating NWN2, hello Civ4.

[Beta]

Originally posted by fed1943
Just patched.
Old saves no longer work.
Just the pitboss with Snoopy369 hosting it goes on.
Someone can,please,to guide me how to fix it?
My thanks in advance.

Yes - please let us know. If you try to load a 3.13 save, you get the following message, and then when you hit Ok, "Load Failed" and the game shuts down.

I appreciate all the bugs fixed and game improvements made, but please don't tell me we need to so through the double install process, and admin name change nonsense to continue playing the myriad of pbem games out there.

[Virulent]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Virulent: I believe it is an in-house mod.

Thanks. I was just curious considering the large amount of fan-created content that seems to be added in 3.17. I would have been happy with just bug fixes but an extra mod is a nice little bonus, especially considering the long wait between patches.

Speaking of mods does anybody know if 3.17 updates any of the Fan-mods which came with BtS (RtW, RFC and AoI)?

[Blaupanzer]

Thanks, Alexman!

Can anyone tell me the meaning of these two sentences from Alex's update:
"No messages about empire splits of players you have not yet met."
"Fixed empire splitting bug where a previously-existing civ could be resurrected."
I remember empire splits from Civ II, but am unaware of what triggers them in Civ IV.

[snoopy369]

This is presumably the same problem as happened at 3.13 (you all remember that, right? )

If you have a save either in MP format (ie, PBEM), or with 'Lock Modified Assets' for a SP game, it will not work with 3.17 unless you remove the Administrative password.

Have someone with a 3.13 install open the save, remove the admin password, and then save the file. Then load it up in 3.17 (it will work fine as no admin password is on the save). Then add the admin password back in, and presto changeo, it will work in 3.17.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
Thanks, Alexman!

Can anyone tell me the meaning of these two sentences from Alex's update:
"No messages about empire splits of players you have not yet met."
"Fixed empire splitting bug where a previously-existing civ could be resurrected."
I remember empire splits from Civ II, but am unaware of what triggers them in Civ IV.

He's talking about giving independence to a colony.

[jkp1187]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
Thanks, Alexman!

Can anyone tell me the meaning of these two sentences from Alex's update:

By "empire splits", I think he just means granting independence to colonies.

"No messages about empire splits of players you have not yet met."

I *believe* this means that if an empire you've yet to meet spins off a colony, you won't get a message about it.

"Fixed empire splitting bug where a previously-existing civ could be resurrected."
I remember empire splits from Civ II, but am unaware of what triggers them in Civ IV.

This was a nasty bug fixed in Bhruic's unofficial patch. Basically, there was a chance for a previously-eliminated civ to be re-spawned via colony creation....but all of its previous diplomatic relationships (including wars) were restored, too...so sometimes a newly-created vassal would resurrect a civ that the master had previously destroyed...and, recalling its previous status of war, would declare war on the master.

[NFIH]

If I have Bhruic's unofficial 3.13 patch installed, do I need to uninstall it before going with this official one?

[Jaybe]

NFIH, the patch will replace Bhruic's all by itself.