The problem is that for many civs it might as well not exist. It should give some benefit to everyone.
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I don't think that it has to provide some benefit to everyone. Spiritual is such a strong trait that gaining no value (other than culture and great engineer points) from a single late wonder doesn't weaken it significantly.
If I'm creative, I don't build Stonehenge. If I'm not going for a cultural victory I don't build the Sistine Chapel. If I have very few coastal cities I don't build the Colossus or Great Lighthouse. If I'm not persuing priest specialists I don't build Angkor Wat. And soon, if I'm spiritual I won't build the Christo Redentor.*
There are only a handful of universally useful wonders - The Great Library, the Oracle, the Taj Mahal, the Statue of Zeus. Why must Christo Redentor feature on that list?
*Denying other civs the wonder being the exception to all of these cases.LandMasses Version 3 Now Available since 18/05/2008.
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I note that the wikipedia entry for BtS has some additional information not found in this thread - for example, the list of new units:
New units
Privateer[62]
Paratrooper[63]
Cuirassier[64]
Anti-tank gun[65]
High-powered artillery[66]
Low-powered tactical nuke[67]
Mobile artillery[68]
Mobile SAM[69]
Attack Submarine[70]
Missile Cruiser[71]
Stealth Destroyer[72]
Ninja[73]
Great Spy (Great Person)
includes some I hadn't seen listed here.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civiliz...yond_the_Sword)
Of course, wikipedia is often wrong or b.s. Still, is there any truth to this information, or is it just wishful thinking/unauthorized disclosure by someone or someones?
edit: I followed some of the links in the footnotes, many of which go to an article dated June 3. So perhaps the information is legitimate.Last edited by Six Thousand Year Old Man; June 4, 2007, 00:35."I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
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Other buildings include Public Transportation, Industrial Parks, and Levees. There are new modern technologies like Laser, Superconductor, and Stealth. New modern units include the Mobile SAM, Mobile Artillery, Tactical Nuke, Attack Submarine, Missile Cruiser, and Stealth Destroyer.USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
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Originally posted by Will9
This all seems like good news. Levee seems like a strange building though. I'm guessing it prevents flood events. 3 new naval units is very good news plus it adds a new generation of ships. Stealth Destroyers haven't even been build yet.
I note from the Mantzaris interview here (http://play.tm/story/10816) that BtS "will include some of the code from Warlords - specifically the stuff that impacts the core game functionality. The assets and code from the scenarios in Warlords will not be included."
So that's one question answered.
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"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
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I'm quite unimpressed by the Cristo Redentor too. Looks useless for spiritual civs. I hope spiritual ai's will realize it and never build it. Looks like a waste if it just does what was advertised.Clash of Civilization team member
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Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
Would love to see the levee allow the reclamation of ocean tiles as land (sort of like the dikes in Holland do?).
I note from the Mantzaris interview here (http://play.tm/story/10816) that BtS "will include some of the code from Warlords - specifically the stuff that impacts the core game functionality. The assets and code from the scenarios in Warlords will not be included."
So that's one question answered.
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Originally posted by LDiCesare
I'm quite unimpressed by the Cristo Redentor too. Looks useless for spiritual civs. I hope spiritual ai's will realize it and never build it. Looks like a waste if it just does what was advertised.The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
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Originally posted by Solver
There are no ninjas, thankfully, it's been confirmed by Trip
:hmm: This brings up another question, in that how much more of the articles are giving us 'misguided' information. I'm of the opinion interviews with Alex can be taken as is, but hands-on and previews should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Originally posted by Methos from CFC
I mean no disrespect, but not being active here I don't know who "Trip" is. Is he someone that would know for certain?
:hmm: This brings up another question, in that how much more of the articles are giving us 'misguided' information. I'm of the opinion interviews with Alex can be taken as is, but hands-on and previews should be taken with a grain of salt.
and as to other comments, yes sometimes information is reported incorrectly, so thats why I am employed by Apolyton.net, LLC. I actually "travel" to these gaming companies, take tours, play beta's, get a so called free lunch then come back here and agree to write a news item.
The way I put it to them is "Aint no free lunch boyz" either take me to the vending machine or no articles about your game......
Or maybe I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express
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Originally posted by Methos from CFC
I mean no disrespect, but not being active here I don't know who "Trip" is. Is he someone that would know for certain?
:hmm: This brings up another question, in that how much more of the articles are giving us 'misguided' information. I'm of the opinion interviews with Alex can be taken as is, but hands-on and previews should be taken with a grain of salt.The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
"God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
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