Beyond the Sword Fact Sheet

[Solver]

And they're Willem van Oranje and Suleiman, as confirmed by IGN

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Solver
And they're Willem van Oranje and Suleiman, as confirmed by IGN

So that's the Netherlands' leader and a second Turkish leader, interesting.

[Solver]

Yeah, if anyone here doesn't know which civ Willem belongs to, they should be fired

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Solver
Yeah, if anyone here doesn't know which civ Willem belongs to, they should be fired

I should think so. I noticed that someone on CFC was clueless: "What civ is Oranje the leader of?"

Sad.

[Kuciwalker]

Portugal, right?

[LDiCesare]

From that IGN interview:

Creative Constructions turns obsolete strategic resources like iron, copper, stone, or marble into extra production for your cities.

I don't think this has been highlighted here but it sounds great to me.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Ennet
There is a new way to win the game through religion and diplomacy.

Finally

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Portugal, right?

I presume you're kidding, but in case not, refer to Civ3 leaders.

[Nikolai]

He must be kidding. Everybody knows that's the historical leader of England.

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Nikolai
He must be kidding. Everybody knows that's the historical leader of England.

Wrong William of Orange.

[Jaybe]

Well, of course for a time there was one Orange who was leader of two countries. Wasn't that Orange William?

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Jaybe
Well, of course for a time there was one Orange who was leader of two countries. Wasn't that Orange William?

That one was William III of England and Orange. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England)
This leaderhead is clearly William the Silent, an earlier ruler.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Silent)

[Provost Harrison]

Damn, Evil Spock is the leader of the Netherlands

[Xorbon]

"High Powered Artillery" is a lame name for a unit. Though I guess "Modern Armor" isn't any better.

Originally posted by Ennet

Misc info:
There is a new way to win the game through religion and diplomacy.

There are on-map ocean trade routes that enhance the importance of your navy.

There is a reworked late-game technology tree.

There are colonies splitting from their motherland to form new civilizations.

If done well, this would be awesome!


For corporations I'd like to see the following to provide a modern use for the horse resource:

Purina Pet Food Co. : provides an extra luxury resource to cities with a majority middle/upper class with access to horse; provides an extra food resource to cities with a majority of lower class citizens with access to horse

[Martinus]

Alexander is right - Civ3 Dutch and Civ4 Dutch have different Willems, at least judging by their looks (it is also possible that Firaxis took the wrong picture for their Willem in Civ4 - we will only find out once we can check this in Civilopedia ).

Personally, I would have prefered Willem III, as he had more "regal" look tohim.

Any guesses on what their traits are going to be? I would like Willem to be Financial/Creative and Suleyman Industrious/Organized, personally (both great combos, that were removed in Warlords - originally they were held by Catherine and Napoleon, respectively).