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  • #16
    Originally posted by Locutus


    It was an April Fools joke. Which is exactly why it was deleted, to prevent that some poor suckers would actually fall for it...
    THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
    AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
    AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
    DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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    • #17
      Stardock is, simply put, in a different position than Firaxis.

      If you check the multiplayer forums regarding the bugs that people are encountering in MP, I think that could give an idea on the patch's main bugfixes. There are the so-called "retire bug" and "peer bug" for example.
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      • #18
        Why do some people think that by starting a thread asking where the patch is it will somehow magically appear? You can´t hurry the QA at Take2...
        I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Locutus


          It was an April Fools joke. Which is exactly why it was deleted, to prevent that some poor suckers would actually fall for it...
          silly me

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Nikolai
            In one way I agree, but think of it: After such long time, what would happen if Firaxis said "it's coming in X days", and when the day came they said "sorry mac, we got some random problem". People would be everything but happy then, I can assure you.
            They shouldn't give a date or a list of fixes until the patch is done, cleared, and ready to be downloaded.

            What they should do, however, is make an announcement apologizing for the delay and promise to continue working. Of course, they're mostly empty words in the end, but does it really hurt to politely say that it'll be delayed? As long as they're not making promises they can't keep, I fail to see how that's worse than saying nothing at all.

            Note: I'm not about to get upset about it. I just find it curious that they never say anything about the patches

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sabre2th
              What they should do, however, is make an announcement apologizing for the delay and promise to continue working. Of course, they're mostly empty words in the end, but does it really hurt to politely say that it'll be delayed? As long as they're not making promises they can't keep, I fail to see how that's worse than saying nothing at all.
              They did that just a couple of weeks ago, both Soren and Thamer posted at CivFanatics. You can't expect them to do so on a daily basis.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Willem
                They did that just a couple of weeks ago, both Soren and Thamer posted at CivFanatics. You can't expect them to do so on a daily basis.
                Nobody said they should. Not everybody goes to CivFanatics.

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                • #23
                  But everybody is keen to blame them for not keeping anyone informed .
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sabre2th

                    Nobody said they should. Not everybody goes to CivFanatics.
                    But a link to the thread was posted here as well.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Solver
                      But everybody is keen to blame them for not keeping anyone informed .
                      I'm not blaming them for anything. I just said that I can see both sides of the argument. A post in a forum isn't an announcement

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                      • #26
                        Well, we can blame them for posting on CivFanatics instead of here
                        THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                        AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                        AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                        DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                        • #27
                          A post in a forum isn't an announcement


                          But it's easy to make. Making an announcement isn't as easy as you might think. Of course, I do agree that an official announcement would be the best thing.
                          Last edited by Solver; April 2, 2006, 18:10.
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                          • #28
                            I beleave, that this will be the final patch for this game. They want to try to get as much fixed as possible, before moving fully onto Warlords.

                            As we are feeling frustrated about the delays on this, I imagine that they are also feeling some forms of frustration, because of having to (likely) fix things that are coming up in the final testing (which then requires further testing).

                            I know that I remember some of the C3C patch fiaskos, where things were changed, without fulling testing, and they came back to bite them.

                            So, yeah, we are impatient for the patch, but give them time to get it right, so that we can all be happy that it does what we want.

                            E_T
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by E_T
                              I beleave, that this will be the final patch for this game. They want to try to get as much fixed as possible, before moving fully onto Warlords.

                              As we are feeling frustrated about the delays on this, I imagine that they are also feeling some forms of frustration, because of having to (likely) fix things that are coming up in the final testing (which then requires further testing).

                              I know that I remember some of the C3C patch fiaskos, where things were changed, without fulling testing, and they came back to bite them.

                              So, yeah, we are impatient for the patch, but give them time to get it right, so that we can all be happy that it does what we want.

                              E_T
                              ditto

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Solver
                                Sometimes fix lists / readmes for patches get released, but I've never seen anyone do it more than a day or maybe two in advance of the release. The reasons are obvious for anyone who has ever worked in IT .
                                There was a Dilbert strip sometime in the last couple of years, went something like this:

                                Panel 1: Dilbert, with sheet of paper in hand, to PHB: "There are too many software faults, we'll never make our ship date."

                                Panel 2: PHB to Dilbert, with Dilbert's paper in hand: "Move them all to the Future Delvelopment column and ship it."

                                Panel 3: PHB to self in thought baloon: "90% of this job is knowing what to call stuff."



                                smacfan

                                P.S. -- Don't blame IT for the lack of communication. I am in corporate IT, and telling clients/users what you plan to fix in the next release is mandatory everyday reality. You may or may not make schedule, and other bugs/enhancements may get thrown into the mix before the release, and the solutions may change something else unexpectedly, but there is *always* a published list. In fact, if you "fix" or "add" something you *didn't* tell anyone about, the fit hits the shan for sure.

                                They could easily tell us, but I suspect the game publishing software culture isn't quite the same as corporate IT psychology/sociology.

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