What are your criteria for including a civ in the game?

[LordShiva]

Seriously, I don't understand why some people continue to claim that diversity in this case is a sell out to political correctness. I agree with Boris Godunov - if I were to play an Earth Map game, I don't want large stretches of empty territory. Diverse cultures, with better geographic distribution, city graphics, unit types etc. makes for more enjoyable gameplay, period. It shouldn't have anything to do with political correctness.

[Kc7mxo]

Seriously, I don't understand why some people continue to claim that diversity in this case is a sell out to political correctness. I agree with Boris Godunov - if I were to play an Earth Map game, I don't want large stretches of empty territory. Diverse cultures, with better geographic distribution, city graphics, unit types etc. makes for more enjoyable gameplay, period. It shouldn't have anything to do with political correctness.

Now that is a valid point. Large expanses of empty territory on an earth map are indeed annoying. In civ2 i relocated the start positions on the large earth map to avoid just this.

[Donegeal]

Who cares?! Mod it!

Give me my damn game and let me play!!!

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[Datajack Franit]

Excuse me but calling the Dutch civ insignificant is really an insult

[MxM]

Hey, I wanted Banana Republic to be included, but that was not an option

[Datajack Franit]

[LordShiva]

Yeah, the Dutch were hardly insignificant. Way way more significant than the Incas.

[binTravkin]

This poll has erroneus title and I feel fooled by it and angry on it's starter.

With option set like this it should be called "Which countries you want in" (as it's pretty obvious which ones stand behind most of the options), not "What are your criteria for including a civ in the game?".

An example of criteria would be:

1.cultural achievements (great wonders built, cultural influence)
2.military achievements
3.etc achievements
4.longevity
5.etc

And a +1 here is the only pleasure I get from looking at this useless trigger for more flaming on civilisation importance.

[Modo44]

[Jethro83]

There are far too many civs who made a significant contribution to world history to be able to name a number of them small enough to fit the list. So I'm going to have to go with Option 7.

I find Civ to be a bit of a learning experience. I wouldn't have known as much about the Sioux, Zulu, Iroquois, etc. if they didn't appear in this series, as I took their presence as encouragement to research and read about them. I'm looking forward to learning more about Mali.

And anyway, if I don't like the list of civs, then its a simple matter of modding them out and replacing them with different types depending on my mood. Sometimes, I might occasionally include the Australians (not that I'm patriotic, its just that sometimes I want to play as a civ I can relate to on a role-playing level). Did it once with Civ III, and I easily imagine having a crack at it this time around too.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Excuse me but calling the Dutch civ insignificant is really an insult

Any civilization that can produce the V.O.C., defeat the tercios, produce De Stijl, Rembrandt, Vermeer, Maurice of Nassau, Mondrian and Spinoza can take an insult like that in its stride and still serve up a rijstafel with a coffee and speculaas to follow.


The Dutch:

[binTravkin]

I say, LET LATVIANS IN!

[Solver]

With me as the leader .

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by binTravkin
This poll has erroneus title and I feel fooled by it and angry on it's starter.

So maybe I should have rephrased it "What types of civs fit the criteria ... etc."

Don't feel fooled or angry, I was just typing in response to the point that many people are split on the civ issue.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Theoreticaly how many Aditional Civs could be moded in?

Currently from what I have read its possible to play a game with players equal to the number of Civs the game will ship with. But could that number be incressed? With Huge maps and Simultanious turns having 40 players in a game might actualy be possible

If thats the case we would NEED to have all kinds of minor Civs and the desisions will be based on what the hordes of Artists and Moders want to see.

Another point, from what I can tell the "Civs" realy amount to "City Graphic Sets" along with thouse Native language files for your units. The Leader is supposed to hold all the unique abilities of your Civ and give it uniqueness for play. I suspect most moding will actualy revolved around creating additional leaders. Ofcorse these leaders should be more then just new artwork slaped on old sets of bonuses. So we will have a theoretical limiting factor based on how many meanigfull and balanced combinations exists.