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  • #61
    Originally posted by TechWins
    Either the Greeks or the Romans could be considered the most influential civ in Western history, so that pretty much narrows down the choice to the Greeks for me.
    Wasn't Rome founded by refugees from Greece's city-states?
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    • #62
      From Troy.

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      • #63
        Or so their founding myth went. Everyone in the Mediterranean wanted to be Greek or descended from Greeks. In reality, the Romans were just another Latin tribe subject to Etruscan city-states.

        For the purposes of gameplay, I think the Incas should go. They are similar enough to the Aztecs on the surface whitewash of civilization that this game will be (has to be, or else it would suck) as to be rather redundant.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by DerSchwarzfalke
          Everyone in the Mediterranean wanted to be Greek or descended from Greeks.
          Yet another reason to keep the Greeks.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Vince278


            Wasn't Rome founded by refugees from Greece's city-states?
            I couldn't say, but what I was aiming to get at is that the Greeks are either the most or the second most influential civ in Western history. I think that sums it up why they NEED to be included to truly provided a real Civ-feel game, just as you said in your very last post.
            However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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            • #66
              Right. There were even Greek pharohs in Egypt but Egypt never ruled in Greece. Greek influence went as far as India in ancient times.
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              • #67
                The Ptolemies (a dynasty in Egypt) were Greeks who had come during Alexander's time.

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                • #68
                  Right, and their influence stretched to India at the same time as well.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Vince278
                    Right, and their influence stretched to India at the same time as well.
                    During the Hellenistic age, Greek rule stretched from colonies in Spain, France and Italy to Diadochoi successor kingdoms in Egypt, Meopotamia, Macedonia, Anatolia and even Bactria.

                    Chandragupta Maurya of northern India sold Seleucus Nicator 300 War Elephants in exchange for the portions of India that Alexander had conquered.
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                    • #70
                      The Buddha statues in Afghanistan that were infamously destroyed by the Taliban were actually part of the Hellenistic influence. Before Alexander marched his armies through that region, the Buddha was never represented in physical form but only through symbols like a wheel. Since then, we have the evolution to the "jolly fat guy" statues you see now.
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                      • #71
                        ?

                        But if that's true, then why build them in response to Alexander? To show that they were greater than foreign devils?
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                        • #72
                          Because the Greeks brought the concept of building such statues to them.

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                          • #73
                            Canadians! Canadians! Canadians!

                            Though in reality, I see it as absurd if the Greeks aren't in. Caricaturizing, we could include Austrian-Canadians-Australians to also replace India-China-Rome
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                            • #74
                              The Austrio-Canadian empire!

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                              • #75
                                No Greeks =
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