Civilization IV Civs

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
And it probably means that your sources are wrong. There's only slightly less chance of having the Greeks in than the Americans.

Actually, he is actually using sources. Respectfully, you're just making stuff up based on who you think should be in, whereas Dr Zoidberg quotes my fact thread, which bases its information on a multitude of sources, such as screenshots, previews, interviews, etc -- on actual evidence.

The only caveat is that, as Dr Zoidberg implied, one of the civs from my fact thread might be incorrect: we have reasons to believe one civ got axed after the first information was given to the press, but we have no idea which one. The only civs who were not seen or heard of recently (E3 or later) are the ones Dr Zoidberg lists seperately: Arabs, Aztecs and Babylonians. One of these might have been cut, which would give us 17 known civs with 18 in the game. So there's still room for one more civ, which presumably would be Greece. But until we see actual evidence of their presence, they will not be added to my list.

Originally posted by Alexander01
and who the heck would the Malinese have???

Almost certainly Sundiate Keita and/or Mansa Musa, the two famous Malian emperors.

[Zoid]

Ok, last off topic post on my part...

Originally posted by GeoModder
Was there a reason that this warming up couldn't happen in it's hangar (or shelter, or whatever they used at that stage to avoid easy detection by allied patrols)?

I read somewhere that they had problems, since they couldn´t do this in a hangar. But I´ve forgotten where I read it. My guess is that firing up two jet engines inside the hangar was too dangerous, it probably would´ve damaged the hangar walls (like it did with the asphalt runways).

[Alexander I]

Well, the CivAnon website mentions the Greeks in passing.

Look at the bottom of the screen there at the Civilization Anonymous Manifesto. One of the later points talks about Greeks, Romans, and Mongol hoards (sic!).

However, I'm not certain of the veracity of this data.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Locutus
Actually, he is actually using sources. Respectfully, you're just making stuff up based on who you think should be in, whereas Dr Zoidberg quotes my fact thread, which bases its information on a multitude of sources, such as screenshots, previews, interviews, etc -- on actual evidence.

I'm not talking about what should be in; I'm talking about what I perceive Firaxis as being likely to do. Remove the Greeks from the game is not high on that list, given how much the casual gamer would expect them to be there.

[Xorbon]

Originally posted by Locutus
Almost certainly Sundiate Keita and/or Mansa Musa, the two famous Malian emperors.

Well, let's hope it's Mansa Musa. It is the cooler sounding name of the two.

[Alexander I]

Yes. I had actually heard of Mansa Musa, whereas I have not heard of Sundiate Keisa.

[Vince278]

I would name my Mali emperor Timbuk II.

[Alexander I]

That's the punniest thing I've heard all week!

[Mace]

This is blowing my mind. You fellas sure know your Malinese history. I couldn't name a single Malinese emperor. But I do know where Timbuktu is...

[Alexander I]

How would have thought...

Mali in Civ4! (And apparently no Greeks?)

[Vince278]

No Greeks?!? Apolyton's roots are Greek! I wonder what Marko would say...

[MarkG]

the info so far is certainly incomplete. there simply can not be a strategy game covering the entire history of mankind without the greeks

[Alexander I]

I most certainly agree with that. How many of the great world civilizations have not been affected by the Greeks?

[Mace]

I agree too. It just couldn't claim to be a game about civilization without the Greeks in it. The Greeks made too much contribution to civilization to be left out of the base game...

[Mahdimael]

The Greeks didn't do much, really...




..except provide the foundation for the entirety of Western philosophy!