Reminder: I will leave sometime tomorrow, and return on the 13th to start the D/ST draft. Please plan accordingly.
On live drafts/auctions, I am happy to do any weekday night from the 14th on.

There are actual "true performers" on Defense, too. Suh isn't one of them.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

Reminder: I will leave sometime tomorrow, and return on the 13th to start the D/ST draft. Please plan accordingly.
On live drafts/auctions, I am happy to do any weekday night from the 14th on.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

can we do a draft order before you leave?
and have fun!
sent EPW a pm with Rabbit's instructions, he's trying to figure out how to make the change

No kidding. I don't think asking for a draft order, again, is too much to ask.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

Yeah that would be very useful for planning purposes.
Hey maybe Jaguar will be the 10th pick so we can get 90% of the first round done without him![]()
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

I restarted it as[top]Poly IDP FF12
password
poly
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Thanks, EPW.
Check your email.
Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

OK, let's do the draft order.
I believe this to be our league:
Jaguar - Goats
flash - Flashtastics
Ozzy - YRK
Koy - Deviations
Berz - Berz
snoopy - Chester's Tailors
joncha - QB Trolls
Slowwhand - Dwarf Tossers
Spaced - Boyz
MRT - Purple Drank
Jonny - Hammers
Albie - Thinking RBs
I have given each team a corresponding famous NFL draft bust to go with it. There are twelve draft busts in total. I will PM the list of which draft bust corresponds to which owner to Berz and Snoopy. Then, someone other than Berz or Snoopy must list these NFL draft busts in any order they choose. Whoever's draft bust is at the top of the list gets to go first, and whoever's draft bust is at the bottom of the list goes last, etc.
Here is the list of draft busts:
Akili Smith (QB - CIN 3rd in 1999)
Ryan Leaf (QB - SDG 2nd in 1998)
Charles Rogers (WR - DET 2nd in 2003)
JaMarcus Russell (QB - OAK 1st in 2007)
Steve Emtman (DE - IND 1st in 1992)
Heath Shuler (QB - WAS 3rd in 1994)
Tony Mandarich (T - GB 2nd in 1989)
Curtis Enis (RB - CHI 5th in 1998)
Steve Niehaus (DT - SEA 2nd in 1976)
Gaines Adams (DE - TB 4th in 2007)
Tim Couch (QB - CLE 1st in 1999)
Bruce Pickins (DB - ATL 3rd in 1991)
Put these players in whatever order you choose.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

This is very unique.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

What you want to avoid is having two lists of integers from 1-12. That's just horribly confusing.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

Tony Mandarich (T - GB 2nd in 1989)
Steve Emtman (DE - IND 1st in 1992)
Heath Shuler (QB - WAS 3rd in 1994)
Akili Smith (QB - CIN 3rd in 1999)
Ryan Leaf (QB - SDG 2nd in 1998)
Gaines Adams (DE - TB 4th in 2007)
JaMarcus Russell (QB - OAK 1st in 2007)
Curtis Enis (RB - CHI 5th in 1998)
Bruce Pickins (DB - ATL 3rd in 1991)
Tim Couch (QB - CLE 1st in 1999)
Charles Rogers (WR - DET 2nd in 2003)
Steve Niehaus (DT - SEA 2nd in 1976)

Jaguar - Goats - Tony Mandarich (T - GB 2nd in 1989)
flash - Flashtastics - Bruce Pickins (DB - ATL 3rd in 1991)
Ozzy - YRK - JaMarcus Russell (QB - OAK 1st in 2007)
Koy - Deviations - Akili Smith (QB - CIN 3rd in 1999)
Berz - Berz - Gaines Adams (DE - TB 4th in 2007)
snoopy - Chester's Tailors - Steve Emtman (DE - IND 1st in 1992)
joncha - QB Trolls - Tim Couch (QB - CLE 1st in 1999)
Slowwhand - Dwarf Tossers - Steve Niehaus (DT - SEA 2nd in 1976)
Spaced - Boyz - Curtis Enis (RB - CHI 5th in 1998)
MRT - Purple Drank - Heath Shuler (QB - WAS 3rd in 1994)
Jonny - Hammers - Ryan Leaf (QB - SDG 2nd in 1998)
Albie - Thinking RBs - Charles Rogers (WR - DET 2nd in 2003)
- from PM to snoopy and Berz
Therefore, the draft order is this:
01.01 Jaguar -
01.02 snoopy369 -
01.03 MRT144 -
01.04 Koyaanisqatsi -
01.05 Jonny -
01.06 Berz -
01.07 OzzyKP -
01.08 Spaced Cowboy -
01.09 flash9286 -
01.10 joncha -
01.11 Al B. Sure -
01.12 Slowwhand -
For the record, I hate drafting on the ends.![]()
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

I would not have chosen this draft order for the world. Slowwy is going to go nuts, Berz gets a nice centered spot, I have to draft close to Snoopy and on the end. Ugh.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

I should have gotten JaMarcus!
"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

I take cash, checks, money order, thanks, hate mail, and insults. I'm sorry but I cannot accept strikes to the face or genitals at this time, thank you for your understanding.

I'm protesting the inclusion of Gaines Adams on the bust list. Dying shouldn't be held against him. I move to re-conduct the lottery on the basis of this error.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Why, how'd that pick work out for the Buccaneers (and Bears)?
Ain't no bigger bust than death.
Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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Slowwy at the end with Albert.
I wonder if this is the year I finally get a pick higher than 10th.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
"I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.

"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

Ok, I'm in, EPW can flip the switch now.
As far as settings, here's my proposal based on what's been mentioned. TEs are added to flex. QBs will get fewer points overall and deep passes are relatively rewarded more than dumpoffs (shaky on this one, but...). Return yards are nerfed as I mentioned before. Defensive players are bumped a bit, with an emphasis on plays that are more predictable (tackles) over plays that are more random (turnovers). If there are deep objections by this weekend then we can discuss it, otherwise we'll go with it.
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QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/TE, K, DB, DB, DL, LB, LB, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Offense
Completions .5 (was 1)
Incomplete Passes -.5
Passing Yards 25 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns 6
Interceptions -3
Sacks -0.5
Rushing Yards 10 yards per point
Rushing Touchdowns 6
Receptions 1
Reception Yards 20 yards per point
Reception Touchdowns 6
Return Yards 50 yards per point (was 20)
Return Touchdowns 6
2-Point Conversions 2
Fumbles Lost -3
Kickers
Field Goals 0-19 Yards 3
Field Goals 20-29 Yards 3
Field Goals 30-39 Yards 3
Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4
Field Goals 50+ Yards 5
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards -2
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards -1
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards -1
Point After Attempt Made 1
Point After Attempt Missed -1
Defensive Players
Tackle Solo 1.5 (was 1)
Tackle Assist .75 (was .5)
Sack 2
Interception 3
Fumble Force 2
Fumble Recovery 2 (was 3)
Defensive Touchdown 6
Safety 4
Pass Defended 1.5 (was 1)
Block Kick 3
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Jag, given that we're now in August, how do you want to handle your vacation?
"In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

thx EPW
anybody else missing time the 2nd half of August? you know the drill, make lists or ask someone to pick for you
no rush on the idp, not even sure we got enough for a league yet
we'll need the league id (password is poly), that should appear under the settings
and if anyone has any gripes about settings, speak up
Last edited by Berzerker; August 2, 2012 at 21:42.

IDP League ID: 329896
"In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

thx, one more problem, you'll need to increase the league size and possibly send out invites
i got a loaded league message
Last edited by Berzerker; August 2, 2012 at 23:28.

I'll need permissions to do that.![]()
"In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

****ing Jaguar. Just try to tell me that the event of me picking last with Alby on the front side wasn't schemed. I hate your guts and liver, Jaguar.![]()
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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