What do you do when you go to Heaven?

**EyesOfNight** · June 15, 2007, 22:21

Exactly as the topic states. For those of you who believe in an after life, what do you do once you reach your destination of paradise?

**Bkeela** · June 15, 2007, 23:13

I think it will be like the end of Tool's video for Parabol/Parabola - you will become a part of the universal mind and be in a state of Nirvana.

**Kuciwalker** · June 15, 2007, 23:14

Probably post on Apolyton about it.

**SlowwHand** · June 15, 2007, 23:18

Whenever you were happiest. The things you loved are there. The people you loved knew good people, and you you didn't have time before to meet them, but now you do.
You don't have time to miss anyone. Time on earth has no meaning. You land, stand up and look around, and the people you left behind are landing all around you.
50 earth years compared to eternity? Your great, great grandaughter is about to land right where you're standing, move over.

**Koyaanisqatsi** · June 15, 2007, 23:19

I'm told it involves seventy virgins with swelling breasts.

**Frozzy** · June 15, 2007, 23:24

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Whenever you were happiest. The things you loved are there. The people you loved knew good people, and you you didn't have time before to meet them, but now you do.
You don't have time to miss anyone. Time on earth has no meaning. You land, stand up and look around, and the people you left behind are landing all around you.
50 earth years compared to eternity? Your great, great grandaughter is about to land right where you're standing, move over.

Sounds a bit like Heathrow.

**SlowwHand** · June 15, 2007, 23:30

You mean Heathrow sounds like me.

Loud and annoying?

**Ben Kenobi** · June 15, 2007, 23:32

I had a thread on this awhile back, several years ago.

I know the closest thing I've ever had to heaven on earth, and that's what I hope will be there for me in heaven, only there is no time. You don't need to hurry or rush because you have all the time in the world.

I would love to just live in that moment, and be able to make it last forever.

**Frozzy** · June 15, 2007, 23:40

I would love to just live in that moment, and be able to make it last forever.

Personally I'm of the opinion that these special moments are special because of a rough formula (happiness or meaning)/time. The greater the value, the more special that moment is. If the moment went on for longer and longer it would lose its significance. For instance briefly meeting the Queen might be a grand experience, a very special moment. If on the other hand you lived in Buckingham Palace it isn't really all that special.

**Ben Kenobi** · June 15, 2007, 23:46

Personally I'm of the opinion that these special moments are special because of a rough formula (happiness or meaning)/time. The greater the value, the more special that moment is. If the moment went on for longer and longer it would lose its significance. For instance briefly meeting the Queen might be a grand experience, a very special moment. If on the other hand you lived in Buckingham Palace it isn't really all that special.

That's because you are thinking of time in the sense that we have here today, where you are doing one thing for a long time.

I'm thinking of time where the distance between two seconds could last a thousand years. It's hard to explain. It's not like getting up every morning and going hiya queen, it's like you are experiencing everything for the first time, and you can control how long everything lasts.

I don't know if that makes any sense at all.

**Jon Miller** · June 15, 2007, 23:46

I do beleive in heaven. I don't believe in a seperate spiritual realm, rather that there is/will be a physical place.

JM

**Bkeela** · June 15, 2007, 23:46

This reminds me of the end of American Beauty. I think desperately holding onto a moment and wanting it to last forever would become living HELL.

The secret of paradise is letting it go - surrendering - letting it flow through you.

**Koyaanisqatsi** · June 15, 2007, 23:48

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I do beleive in heaven. I don't believe in a seperate spiritual realm, rather that there is/will be a physical place.

JM

I'm sorry, not really trying to get involved, but this begs the question: then how do we get there?

**Nostromo** · June 15, 2007, 23:57

Even if there's a place called Heaven, I'm not sure what part of me would go there. Humans can't see, hear, feel, touch, think or remember (who we are, who are our loved ones or what we like) without our bodies (our brains, in particular). Look at people who suffer from Alzheimer's. After a while, they don't know who they are and they can't recognize their loved ones anymore. The person they were just withers away, never to be seen again. Since my Self is intimately linked to my memory, and since memories are information stored in my brain, there's reason to believe that I, nostromo, will not survive my death. So even if some part of me goes to Heaven after my death, it will not be me and it will not be able to recognize my loved ones, it will not be able to see, hear, smell or touch anything. So why do you care whether that thing goes to Heaven or not? You won't survive yourself.

Sorry for my naive theological ramblings...

**Winston** · June 16, 2007, 00:10

The way some of you envision Heaven, if I ever got there I would certainly want to post a "Do not disturb" sign on my front ..cloud.

**Jon Miller** · June 16, 2007, 00:11

Well, when we will be there, heaven will be here, on earth.

I am an Annihilationist and a beleiver in Conditional Immortality. (look them up on Wiki) I also don't beleive in a seperate soul. To put it more directly, I believe in life after life, but not as reincarnation.

JM

**Berzerker** · June 16, 2007, 00:17

Exactly as the topic states. For those of you who believe in an after life, what do you do once you reach your destination of paradise?

Watch y'all burn in hell

"Heaven" is the firmament God used to divide the pre-existing waters above from the waters below. In Akkadian Heaven is the hammered-out bracelet. The Aztec/Toltec heaven had 13 levels with God occupying 2 distinct levels, and the Underworld had 9 levels. The Incan creator was depicted as an ellipse separating (or joining) 4 "stars" below from 5 stars above with the Sun and Moon on either side of the ellipse.

How many levels in Dante's Heaven? Or was that Purgatory...?

**DaShi** · June 16, 2007, 01:00

I believe Dante's Heaven's levels were based on the planets, with the moon being the first level. It's been awhile since I read that one, and I don't remember much from it.

**Ben Kenobi** · June 16, 2007, 01:01

Humans can't see, hear, feel, touch, think or remember (who we are, who are our loved ones or what we like) without our bodies (our brains, in particular).

"I believe in the resurrection of the body..."

**Kuciwalker** · June 16, 2007, 01:08

Originally posted by DaShi
I believe Dante's Heaven's levels were based on the planets, with the moon being the first level. It's been awhile since I read that one, and I don't remember much from it.

Is God the final boss?

**Blake** · June 16, 2007, 01:33

You get bored. Then you get numb. Then you beg to be sent back to earth just to feel something, anything!

**DaShi** · June 16, 2007, 02:15

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Is God the final boss?

Yeah, but it's mostly a jumping battle. Really annoying.

**Sandman** · June 16, 2007, 03:53

After ten trillion years of

ing in the Muslim heaven, what if you want to chill out for a bit with a beer and a bacon sandwich?

**BeBro** · June 16, 2007, 04:19

It's all possible in Heaven 2.0

**molly bloom** · June 16, 2007, 06:34

Ask for a referendum on regime and rule changes.

**EyesOfNight** · June 16, 2007, 09:27

Here's the thing. I can't find something to do and keep from being bored in my short 25 years here. If you don't eat in heaven, and you don't work, and you have anything to work towards, what are you going to do for eternity? People say you can talk to all the people you missed, but that will last what, maybe a few years? Hell, lets say that takes up 100 years. Other things to do? An afterlife is not logically possible.

**Cort Haus** · June 16, 2007, 09:49

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I do beleive in heaven. I don't believe in a seperate spiritual realm, rather that there is/will be a physical place.

JM

So what sort of body do you think people get to use? Do still born babies remain that way, while wheelchair-bound ancients get to keep that, and the 'lucky' ones who died in their peak of youth get to keep their looks for eternity?

**Cort Haus** · June 16, 2007, 09:52

Originally posted by EyesOfNight
Here's the thing. I can't find something to do and keep from being bored in my short 25 years here. If you don't eat in heaven, and you don't work, and you have anything to work towards, what are you going to do for eternity? People say you can talk to all the people you missed, but that will last what, maybe a few years? Hell, lets say that takes up 100 years. Other things to do? An afterlife is not logically possible.

Eyes, I'm sure that in heaven everyone will play Civ 2, and that you'll even get to beat God, and claim your rightful place as the supreme being of the eternal universe.