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  • #46
    The Beatles have licensed songs to MTV Networks' Rock Band videogame series, according to several people familiar with the matter, a coup for the Viacom Inc. unit in its battle with rival Activision Blizzard Inc. for supremacy in the world of rock-and-roll videogames.

    The deal, which is set to be announced on Thursday by Viacom's MTV and the band's own Apple Corps Ltd., makes the Beatles the next and biggest major band to license its songs to a music-oriented videogame, joining Aerosmith, Metallica, AC/DC and others.

    Rock Band and Activision's Guitar Hero have engaged in heated competition over exclusive rights to use music by major acts, entering multimillion-dollar licensing agreements with a handful of the biggest names in the business.

    The games let players use plastic game controllers, shaped like miniature musical instruments, to simulate playing rock and pop songs. Players are scored on how well they hit notes.

    The Beatles represent the biggest prize to date in the category. Not only do they have the best-selling album catalog of any band, they haven't yet licensed their music for sale by download services such as Apple Inc.'s iTunes Store.

    A spokesman for Apple Corps didn't return a call for comment. Spokeswomen for EMI Group Ltd., the Beatles' record label, and for MTV declined to comment.

    Speculating on when the Beatles will reach a deal to sell downloads of their catalog is a music-industry pastime. The fact that a videogame publisher beat iTunes and its rivals to the punch highlights the growing importance of music-oriented game titles. With recorded-music sales in a long, steep decline, videogames can be more lucrative for big, sought-after bands than traditional sales.

    According to DFC Intelligence, which follows the industry, music and dance games generated more than $1.2 billion in domestic revenue in 2007; sales this year already had come close to $1 billion at the end of September.

    For MTV, the deal adds luster to the Rock Band series. It made its debut a year ago, a couple of years after the original Guitar Hero came out for Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 2 console. Guitar Hero initially included only a make-believe guitar, while Rock Band added drums and vocals to the game.

    DFC estimates that Guitar Hero and its sequels have generated more than $1.5 billion in cumulative revenue so far, three times as much as Rock Band. However, the two games are competing neck-and-neck so far this year, with MTV's launch of Rock Band 2 and Activision's latest, Guitar Hero World Tour, this past Sunday. Guitar Hero has issued seven titles to date, while Rock Band -- distributed by Electronic Arts Inc. -- has put out just two titles.

    Beatles songs available on a Rock Band game are likely to be popular, but analysts point out that the challenge will be in reaching out to Beatles fans, many of whom are in their 50s and 60s, and marketing the game in a way that will persuade them to buy a videogame console and try the game.

    Key details about the Beatles game release couldn't be learned, such as which songs, and from what era of the band's career, are to be included. A release date and price also couldn't be learned. Rock Band is a product of Harmonix, a division of MTV.

    Rock Band has taken on added importance to Viacom as its cable networks reel from the sluggish advertising market. The company doesn't break out Rock Band revenue, but in the first half of the year, the game drove Viacom's media networks to pull in $639 million in world-wide ancillary revenue, a 67% increase over the year-earlier period, according to filings. That growth appears to be continuing: In the third quarter, ancillary revenue increased at a "double-digit rate," even as U.S. ad sales on Viacom's cable networks, such as MTV, fell 3%, the company said
    Game over, Rock band 2 wins.
    Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. -Homer

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    • #47



      If we get While My Guitar Gently Weeps, I may just start believing in God.
      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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      • #48
        Originally posted by flash9286

        Game over, Rock band 2 wins.
        Not quite. The only other band alleged to outsell them in terms of raw sales has not licensed their songs to either game yet. (Although one song appears in tribute on GH1 and some of their songs are available on the game SongStar for PS3.)

        If Queen's surviving members allow their songs on Guitar Hero World Tour, that should be enough to keep it in the competition.
        "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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        • #49
          Queen may've sold more in the UK, but not worldwide...

          Queen sold an estimated 300M lifetime, the Beatles sold 545 million by 1972 alone...
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #50
            I don't understand how adults can enjoy these games.

            Glorified clickfests is all they are.

            ACK!
            Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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            • #51
              The drums RULE, Tube. I don't particularly enjoy the guitar, but playing the drums is just a stupid amount of fun.
              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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              • #52
                The drums, from a parent viewpoint, are extremely annoying.

                I guess I could spend more money on less annoying drums......

                ACK!
                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • #53
                  Ah, okay, my bad.

                  But still, Queen would be amazing on Rock Band. I'd hazard to guess that most of their iconic anthems are recognizable worldwide even if the listener doesn't realize it's their work.

                  I remember when I was about 11 learning that they were responsible both for We Will Rock You and Bohemian Rhapsody and thinking it was pretty weird and versatile.
                  "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia


                    Not quite. The only other band alleged to outsell them in terms of raw sales has not licensed their songs to either game yet. (Although one song appears in tribute on GH1 and some of their songs are available on the game SongStar for PS3.)

                    If Queen's surviving members allow their songs on Guitar Hero World Tour, that should be enough to keep it in the competition.
                    Really, you are comparing Queen with The Beatles . Queen is overrated .
                    Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. -Homer

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                    • #55
                      Yeah, I'm comparing Queen with the Beatles. The Beatles are great but Queen was what really shook my world.

                      ...

                      Your experience may vary of course.
                      "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                      • #56
                        Oh, and a new story suggests that Beatles may not be coming to RB2 after all.

                        But they may well get their own Harmonix-published game, which would be sweet!



                        Harmonix, MTV to Create Beatles Game
                        The Beatles may not come to Rock Band after all, with a brand new game coming holiday 2009.
                        By GameSpy Staff | Oct. 30, 2008

                        Following up on yesterday's Wall Street Journal report, MTV Networks and Apple Corps Ltd today announced that Rock Band developer Harmonix will be working on a new game based around the music of the Beatles.

                        The announcement was a bit of a surprise, as many assumed the partnership would take the form of Beatles music being incorporated into the Rock Band franchise in some way. As it was stated on a global conference call, this would not be a track pack, and in fact would be an all-new game to be released next holiday.

                        When asked why the game would not a Rock Band-branded title Harmonix CEO Alex Rigopulos stated, "We're forging into new creative terrain here .... It's not a Rock Band game, it's a Beatles game."

                        The game will feature Giles Martin (son of legendary Beatles producer Sir George Martin) as music producer, who most recently won two Grammys for his work on the Beatles "LOVE" album. While specific songs were not mentioned, it was stated that the game would cover the entire Beatles catalog from "Please Please Me" through "Abbey Road."

                        Predictably, not many details were given beyond the initial announcement, such as whether new peripherals would be created for the new game or if the Beatles' music might still come to Rock Band at a later date. The full press release:

                        THE BEATLES INSPIRE NEW MUSIC VIDEO GAME; APPLE CORPS LTD., MTV AND HARMONIX COME TOGETHER FOR UNPRECEDENTED DEAL

                        Exclusive Agreement Set to Bring The Beatles Music to Fans for the First Time in Interactive Form Here, There and Everywhere in 2009

                        New York, NY – October 30, 2008 – The Beatles' extraordinary music and phenomenal legacy is set to rock across the universe in the form of a video game through an exclusive partnership between Apple Corps Ltd., Harmonix and MTV Games, a part of Viacom's MTV Networks (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B).

                        This partnership marks the first time that Apple Corps, along with EMI Music, Harrisongs Ltd, and Sony/ATV Music Publishing, has agreed to present The Beatles music in an interactive video game format. Published by MTV Games and developed by Harmonix, the world's premier music video game company and creators of the best-selling Rock Band®, the game will be an unprecedented, experiential progression through and celebration of the music and artistry of The Beatles. The game was creatively conceived with input from Sir Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr, along with Yoko Ono Lennon and Olivia Harrison, and enjoys their full blessing. In addition, Giles Martin, co-producer of The Beatles innovative LOVE project, will provide his expertise and serve as Music Producer for this groundbreaking Beatles project.

                        "The project is a fun idea which broadens the appeal of The Beatles and their music. I like people having the opportunity to get to know the music from the inside out," Sir Paul McCartney said.

                        "It gives me great pleasure to be part of The Beatles / Apple and Harmonix / Rock Band partnership," said Ringo Starr. "The Beatles continue to evolve with the passing of time and how wonderful that The Beatles' legacy will find its natural progression into the 21st century through the computerized world we live in. Let the games commence."

                        "It's cool. I love it and hope it will keep inspiring and encouraging the young generation for many decades," said Yoko Ono Lennon.

                        "People are having so much fun playing Rock Band. Combined with The Beatles tracks, it is a great way to either listen or participate," said Olivia Harrison. "If you like the music, it doesn't take much persuasion to get you to play."

                        "Introducing the genius of The Beatles to a whole new generation of music lovers through original and inspired ways is extremely exciting to us at Apple Corps," stated Jeff Jones, CEO, Apple Corps. "We are truly pleased to be working with the innovative forces at MTV and Harmonix as they embody our mutual passions for music and creativity."

                        "Many of us have been part of a generation that has long enjoyed an enduring love affair with The Beatles and now we're looking to extend that love affair for future generations to enjoy," said Van Toffler." "Our inspiration for this project comes from a keen sense of history and a place of utmost reverence and respect for the band, their music and their heritage."

                        "The impact of The Beatles is forever ingrained in the hearts, minds and souls of millions the world over," said Judy McGrath, Chairman and CEO of MTV Networks. "The Beatles are the reason many of us are WHERE we are, and some of us are WHO we are."

                        "We are honored to be part of this new way for people to discover the timeless music and art of The Beatles - the most creatively and commercially successful, critically acclaimed, and influential band in the history of popular music," stated Paul DeGooyer, MTV's Senior Vice President of Electronic Games & Music.

                        "By presenting their music and artistry through the creative filter of a groundbreaking video game, we are giving legions of fans and music lovers all over the world a profound, new way to experience The Beatles," said Alex Rigopulos, CEO and Co-Founder, Harmonix. "This game will be a celebration of the Beatles undeniable legacy."
                        "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                        • #57
                          It'll just be like GH: Aerosmith.

                          It'll be Rock Band 2 with a new setlist of Beatles song, which would probably work out to be a much better deal than DLC.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #58
                            Oh, actually you can make your own tracks for the Guitar Hero World Tour instruments. (But you can't record any vocals.) So I guess I could just get that and transcribe Queen songs anyway.

                            Result!

                            So I think I'll get GH:WT for my Wii. My housemate already has RB2 for 360 so we're all set.
                            "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Asher
                              it would probably work out to be a much better deal than DLC.
                              Yeah, DLC is usually less economical than buying the track packs and special compilations. The main benefit is of choice, but if you already love Aerosmith and the Beatles, you can't miss.
                              "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
                                Oh, actually you can make your own tracks for the Guitar Hero World Tour instruments. (But you can't record any vocals.) So I guess I could just get that and transcribe Queen songs anyway.

                                Result!

                                So I think I'll get GH:WT for my Wii. My housemate already has RB2 for 360 so we're all set.
                                GH WT's "create a song" feature is awful, from what I heard.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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