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  • Yes they are, and no they aren't. What did you think Zone was for?


    Nothing in particular. I assumed it was just fluff.

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    • Originally posted by Asher


      The other platforms -- they all have the odd game, but in terms of sheer quantity of great games they leave a lot to be desired.
      Im not in a position to dispute that wrt PS3 or Wii. In fact I suspect youre right - I really dont see much hope for PS3, and I still think developers didnt see the Wiis popularity coming, so it MAY have many more good games in the future, but not now.

      For the PC though, I keep seeing titles that look tempting, and Im having trouble working through the backlog of games I want to play (granted Im mainly working on 2000--2004 right now)
      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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      • HW Results

        Wii 519K
        Nintendo DS 458K
        Xbox 360 366K
        PSP 286K
        PlayStation 2 184K
        PlayStation 3 121K

        Top 10 SW
        Rank # Units
        360 HALO 3 * MICROSOFT (CORP) SEP 2007 MATURE (M) 1 433.8K
        360 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK W/ GUITACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 2 383.2K
        WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK W/ GUITACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 3 286.3K
        PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK W/ GUITACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 4 271.1K
        NDS LEGEND OF ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS NINTENDO OF AMERICA SEP 2007 EVERYONE (E) 5 262.8K
        WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 EVERYONE (E) 6 239.7K
        360 HALF LIFE 2: EPISODE 2 THE ORANGE BOX ELECTRONIC ARTS OCT 2007 MATURE (M) 7 238.4K
        PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 8 231.7K
        PS2 FIFA SOCCER 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS OCT 2007 EVERYONE (E) 9 129.7K
        NDS BRAIN AGE 2: MORE TRAINING IN MINUTES A NINTENDO OF AMERICA AUG 2007 EVERYONE (E) 10 116.9K

        Year-to-Date Top Title Fast Facts (combining platforms and skus)
        Halo 3 3.7M
        Madden NFL 08 3.2M
        Guitar Hero 2 2.8M
        Play W/ Remote 2.5M
        Pokemon Diamond Version 2.1M
        Pokemon Pearl Version 1.5M
        Spider-Man 3 1.4M
        Guitar Hero III: Legends Of Rock 1.4M

        Super Category Totals
        U.S. Video Games Sales - October 2007
        October 2006 October 2007 YTD Oct 06 YTD Oct 07
        Video Games $643.3M $1.1B 73% $7.0B $10.5B 49%
        Video Games Hardware $207.1M $469.7M 127% $2.2B $4.1B 85%
        Console Hardware $118.7M $349.6M 195% $1.4B $3.0B 125%
        Portable Game Hardware $88.5M $120.1M 36% $877.5M $1.1B 23%
        Video Games Software $369.3M $513.9M 39% $3.9B $5.0B 27%
        Console Software $283.8M $412.5M 45% $2.9B $3.8B 28%
        Portable Game Software $85.5M $101.5M 19% $983.1M $1.2B 23%
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • 1. Hardware - Wii back on top, Halo bump didnt carry 360 to a second month on top. November should be stronger for 360 though, as holiday sales rise and Wii cant fill demand

          2. Software - Halo still selling well. 360 wins on GH3 (well excluding PS2 at any rate - I wonder what the guitarless sales on 360 were?). Wii however does far better on GH3 than its done on any multiplatform titles thus far, AFAICT. Wii is finally starting to show some promise on multiplatform titles. (is this the first month that highest selling Wii title is 3rd party?)

          3. I wonder how the PC Orange Box sales compare to the 360 Orange Box sales

          4. Bad month for PS3. Beaten 3-1 by 360 in HW sales.
          Last edited by lord of the mark; November 15, 2007, 21:26.
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          • Word on the street is that the PS3 outsold the Wii in Japan for the first time last week on the back of Dynasty Warriors 6. I guess the Japanese really are willing to pay $500 for one game
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            • For a long time the only game I had for the PS2 was FF10.

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              • Originally posted by lord of the mark
                1. Hardware - Wii back on top, Halo bump didnt carry 360 to a second month on top. November should be stronger for 360 though, as holiday sales rise and Wii cant fill demand

                2. Software - Halo still selling well. 360 wins on GH3 (well excluding PS2 at any rate - I wonder what the guitarless sales on 360 were?).
                100k guitarless
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                • delete. dbl post thing!
                  Last edited by El_Cid; November 16, 2007, 07:17.

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                  • Originally posted by ZargonX
                    Word on the street is that the PS3 outsold the Wii in Japan for the first time last week on the back of Dynasty Warriors 6. I guess the Japanese really are willing to pay $500 for one game
                    some are(not just japanese), the Neo-Geo was the expensive console of its time:



                    wow - $649!!! it makes the PS3 look cheap!!!

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                    • Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      2. Software - Halo still selling well. 360 wins on GH3 (well excluding PS2 at any rate - I wonder what the guitarless sales on 360 were?). Wii however does far better on GH3 than its done on any multiplatform titles thus far, AFAICT. Wii is finally starting to show some promise on multiplatform titles. (is this the first month that highest selling Wii title is 3rd party?)
                      "For the month of October according to NPD, Xbox 360 software represented 54 percent of total software sales (at $162 million dollars) for this generation, compared to 30 percent for Wii and 16 percent for PS3.

                      Of all 3rd party U.S. software revenue in October, Xbox 360 generated more than double that of the PS3 and Wii. Xbox 360 weighs in at 57 percent with $130 million, compared to Wii with 28 percent and PS3 at 15 percent.

                      PS3 and Wii combined had one third party title in the top ten console title list for the month, while Xbox 360 weighed in with 2. Since November, third party partners have seen their titles hit the top ten 29 times for Xbox 360, compared to 2 for PS3 and 2 for Wii."
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • Originally posted by Asher


                        "For the month of October according to NPD, Xbox 360 software represented 54 percent of total software sales (at $162 million dollars) for this generation, compared to 30 percent for Wii and 16 percent for PS3.

                        Of all 3rd party U.S. software revenue in October, Xbox 360 generated more than double that of the PS3 and Wii. Xbox 360 weighs in at 57 percent with $130 million, compared to Wii with 28 percent and PS3 at 15 percent.

                        PS3 and Wii combined had one third party title in the top ten console title list for the month, while Xbox 360 weighed in with 2. Since November, third party partners have seen their titles hit the top ten 29 times for Xbox 360, compared to 2 for PS3 and 2 for Wii."
                        Yeah 360 is the king of 3rd party SW, and still dominant in SW in general. No disputing that. But Wii is not only beating PS3 in SW (by 2 to 1, per above) its beating PS3 soundly in 3rd party SW.
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • Beating the PS3 isn't an accomplishment in any way, LOTM. No one is buying games on the PS3.

                          Ratchet & Clank, a very well-reviewed multi-million selling franchise from the PS2 looks like it bombed -- 77,000 sales in its debut. They're not buying games, first party, second party, or third party.

                          The PS3 is the Bluray player, with games features.
                          The Wii is the Wii Sports player, with games feature.
                          The 360 is a gaming console.

                          At least, this is what salea indicate.

                          Fun Wii fact:
                          In one year, only seven Wii titles have a Metacritic rating above 85. 63% of Wii titles rank below 70. This puts Wii as possessing one of the most poorly rated libraries in all of console history, beating out only commercial failures such as Jaguar and Virtual Boy.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                          • even adding in the guitarless sales. 360 didnt manage to beat Wii by 2-1 on GH3. Despite 360 being the gaming machine, and Wii not being one. Odd, that.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • Guitar Hero is very much a social/party game. I'm genuinely surprised Wii sales didn't beat the 360 sales, given the Wii's target demographic.

                              GH-like games are more aligned with the Wii social gamer (Mario Party, Wii Sports) than the Halo / Gears of War gamer. Not to mention the fact that the 360's gaming choices are a rather flooded market right now, the Wii's isn't even close -- competition from other titles can impact as well. For instance, I plan to get GH3 for the 360 but I'm too busy playing about half a dozen other 360 games to get it right now. If I only had a Wii, I'd get it now.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • Originally posted by Asher
                                Beating the PS3 isn't an accomplishment in any way, LOTM. No one is buying games on the PS3.

                                Ratchet & Clank, a very well-reviewed multi-million selling franchise from the PS2 looks like it bombed -- 77,000 sales in its debut. They're not buying games, first party, second party, or third party.

                                The PS3 is the Bluray player, with games features.
                                The Wii is the Wii Sports player, with games feature.
                                The 360 is a gaming console.

                                At least, this is what salea indicate.

                                Fun Wii fact:
                                In one year, only seven Wii titles have a Metacritic rating above 85. 63% of Wii titles rank below 70. This puts Wii as possessing one of the most poorly rated libraries in all of console history, beating out only commercial failures such as Jaguar and Virtual Boy.

                                Maybe the typical game reviewer just doesnt get the kind of games that work on the Wii?




                                If you dont like that site, just click through to the Newsweek piece.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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