Neverwinter Nights - Capitalist Utopia

[Qilue]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
I'm not still playing it. I am playing it again. As for why, shrug, I just had cravings to play NWN and most player created modules are yet more buggy and demand installations incompatible to each other, so the OC is it. And if you ask why I don't play SoU/HotU, well, I am playing it too, I have a wizard there in HotU chapter 3.

You might enjoy some of the player made mudules. Yes they do have bugs, but what software doesn't.

[ColdWizard]

Most of the player created modules I've played seem to be bug free or nearly so.

[DrSpike]

There are some decent ones, but I find them hit and miss. If I haven't played them in a while and have nothing to do, I'm usually more than happy to play SoU and HotU.

[Harovan]

I was a bit PO'd after I wasted a couple of days into The Nether Scrolls (the fan created missing link between OC and SoU), only to have an unplayable, crashing mess. The story is nice and I had great fun to play. Credits to the creators. I was sad that it had to end like this.

It may be the fact, that I am playing a localized game version. At least that's often the reason for problems in other games. Not sure about that, though, as I had very little problems with Folderol.

[Qilue]

Guide to player made modules from http://nwvault.ign.com/

1st caveat, don't bother with any in the category "Bioware Contest". These are designed to win a contest, not provide an exciting adventure and aren't really worth downloading.

2nd caveat, older modules can have Bioware patch induced bugs. Over the years with patches and x-pacs, Bioware has changed, removed and recoded quite a few script commands making some older modules unplayable due to script errors. Anything requiring both x-pacs will mostly work as written although recent patch changes will affect some of them too.

Incidently The Nether Scrolls isn't a good example of a player made module as it's actually a "Bioware Contest" module (see 1st caveat).

Click the "Modules" link, then on the next page select "Top Rated". Almost all in that list to at least page 8 are excellent.

The Overlooked modules list is also a good starting point.

[DrSpike]

Why are they so bad? Presumably the contest is to make the best module, not make the worst module?

[Qilue]

Relevant quotes.

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
I was a bit PO'd after I wasted a couple of days into The Nether Scrolls (the fan created missing link between OC and SoU), only to have an unplayable, crashing mess. The story is nice and I had great fun to play. Credits to the creators. I was sad that it had to end like this.

Originally posted by Qilue
1st caveat, don't bother with any in the category "Bioware Contest". These are designed to win a contest, not provide an exciting adventure and aren't really worth downloading.

Incidently The Nether Scrolls isn't a good example of a player made module as it's actually a "Bioware Contest" module (see 1st caveat).

Originally posted by DrSpike
Why are they so bad? Presumably the contest is to make the best module, not make the worst module?

[DrSpike]

Yes, thanks for clearing that up.

Obviously it's very clear that a module designed to win a contest would be awful. Clearly the contest would be to design the least interesting dungeon possible.

[Qilue]

Let me just say that I don't believe contest modules are bad per se, in fact most of them are really well put together.

Just that 30 minutes of bling doesn't compare to a module constructed provide an adventure.

[DrSpike]

Yeah, I'm still not getting it. What is 30 minutes of bling? Is the point that these modules are high quality but too short?

I'm sure you have a point - you just need to make it more clearly and not roll your eyes when asked for clarification.

[Qilue]

Ok, how about an analogy using automobile design.

Contest module = concept car
Normal module = production car

[DrSpike]

Right, so they are designed to do one impressive thing very well, and not that long, and therefore not fulfilling? See, that wasn't too difficult.

[Jamski]

Yay! I can get back on Folderol! Why the hell it was blocked on the uni connection no one can explain! Yay!

[Harovan]

Despite of having a blast to see Spikie act as the epitome of an Imperial British gentleman (as described by Sting in "An Englishman in New York" ), I'm still confused about The Nether Scrolls. From what I have seen it's pretty large and for sure not fit for the attribute "30 minutes of bling".

That said, thanks for the hint and the link Qilue, I didn't know that little difference. I'm at the moment occupied with Patricians Online and a couple other games, but when I get the time I'll try a couple non-contest modules.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Despite of having a blast to see Spikie act as the epitome of an Imperial British gentleman (as described by Sting in "An Englishman in New York" ), I'm still confused about The Nether Scrolls. From what I have seen it's pretty large and for sure not fit for the attribute "30 minutes of bling".

Thanks............I think.