Progress Is Amazing, Isn't It?

[Adagio]

I haven't played the game since a few weeks after release, so I don't remember all the background sounds, but those were probably good too

I haven't found that many great horror movies, but most of those I've seen are descent (Only started watching horror movies a few years ago, so I haven't seen that many). My favorite horror movies are those from that famous writer I don't remember the name of... Steven, Stephen, something like that I believe...
As I saw that they were going to make a movie based on Doom I got a little excitet (I like such devil'ish stories), but after reading the basic story it sounds too much like it's going to be a cheap rip-off of the Resident Evil movies (almost the same story)

[Solver]

Stephen King? Definitely one of my favorite writers, and his works do scare me, but the film adaptations I also found to be rather lacking.

[DrSpike]

I like his novel Stop Threadjacking or The Devil will get You.

[Solver]

So if I make one post not directly related to the topic, you feel compelled to add your typical spam message for a +1. There's something telling me you might not be a Deity for very long anymore .

[General Ludd]

Ruh-roh!

[DrSpike]

The topic, in case anyone had forgotten, was whether or not progress is amazing.

Reviewing the thread (selectively ) the key point seems to be that whilst progress is indeed amazing, the progress made in original Doom may be even more impressive than the progress since then.

Perhaps that should be the point for discussion from now on.

[lord of the mark]

we all piously talk about how gameplay is more important than graphics - yet progress here seems to all be measured in graphics

[Solver]

Reviewing the thread (selectively ) the key point seems to be that whilst progress is indeed amazing, the progress made in original Doom may be even more impressive than the progress since then.

It is hard to make more impressive progress than the game that is the first sophisticated 3D shooter. I know there was Wolfenstein, but Doom has real 3D level architecture, etc., although it's technically not really 3D. But anyway, that progress is hard to match. Maybe a game that looks indistinguishable from a movie.

we all piously talk about how gameplay is more important than graphics - yet progress here seems to all be measured in graphics

In the case of Doom3, it made a point of keeping the gameplay retro and is one of the reasons Doom fans love it, and me too. There is a ton of FPS games on the market. Army games, sci-fi games, whatnot. But nothing to really offer a retro experience like Doom3, simple run&gun.

[Odin]

Graphics look better, but it seems that companies are using graphics as a substitute for good game design.

[Skanky Burns]

Consumers don't buy games with older graphics. It is little wonder that the emphasis has moved towards graphics and away from good game design.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Consumers don't buy games with older graphics. It is little wonder that the emphasis has moved towards graphics and away from good game design.

Quality games have become niche markets, unfortunetly, with games like Europa Universalis, Dominions, Space Empires, ect... that focus on gameplay rather than eye candy.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Consumers don't buy games with older graphics. It is little wonder that the emphasis has moved towards graphics and away from good game design.

Some might say the fact that the market consists of an ever increasing proportion of casual gamers has caused this.

[child of Thor]

RE: Isn't progress amazing?

I think its a little like comparing the origonal star wars trilogy with the new ones(episode1 etc). Sure the new ones are much more technically compitant, but they are not likely to gain the cult status of the origonals.

Its not always about the graphics?

[Kuciwalker]

New games are good AND have good graphics. The new star wars movies are just pure crap.

[DrSpike]

Some new games.