Mmorpgs

[DrSpike]

I don't think you need to use actual arguments to prove it's crap.

[DinoDoc]

Well not being able to post on the game forums, has frustrated me because there's so many people defending the decision and saying it is because of German laws.

[Arnelos]

I played during the entire WoW Open Beta. Aside from NWN persistent worlds, that was my first MMORPG experience.

I'd have to say that I liked it. The RP and community elements were not as robust as they should have been, but Blizzard has been assuring everyone actually interested in RP that they will actually enforce the RP server rules after release. During the open beta, the "RP" was a label only; after release it should mean that RP rules concerning character names and certain aspects of behavior are obeyed or you get booted from the server.

As for PvP, I was playing on an RP server with PvE, but the last 48 hours of the open beta was a nearly continuous world war between people voluntarily flagging themselves as PvP. I fought in battles that were literally 300 on one side and over 200 on the other at one point. We even fought an entire 12-14 hour war with hundreds of participants across much of Ashenvale Forest, the Barrens, and Durotar on Wednesday evening (the alliance won). By the end of the war, my Level 17 Priest was hanging out in the Horde newbie training area, "The Valley of Trials", and chatting with a few other alliance types. It was fun.

I also eventually developed a big group of "friends" for my "friends list" in the game and got contact info for a lot of them for after release.

I'd say I'm pretty pleased with my experience thusfar and hope that the RP and PvP elements both see further development with the actual post-release community. The game could be A LOT of fun if it's anything like what I experienced during the last few days of the open beta with lots of big parties of people who RP'd together and enormous PvP wars.

[General Ludd]

If you get the game, keep me updated on how the RP servers fair, Arnelos.


Perhaps a good enough (and pro-active enough) community can make me change me mind about the game...

[Tassadar500]

What I'm worried about is, since supposedly leveling up is easy, if you create a new character, or buy the game late, everyone will be so much higher than you in levels, you'll be forced to play by yourself, at least for quests, raids etc.

[General Ludd]

There's always people joining the game or starting new characters.


It's true, however, that it may be somehwat harder to find low-level raids or epic quest groups once the game has been around for a while, because everyone is just quickly power-leveling (sometimes with help from their guild or friends) to quickly catch up and join everyone else at the high-level stage. So, generally speaking, there's usually a lot of low-level characters regardless of how long the game has been out, but the people who are "rerolling" are often less social or are not interested in 'exploring' the game with someone else - they just want get through with the grind and get back to being high-level.

[Tassadar500]

The one thing that makes MMORPG nice though, is that they can be updated constantly. So if leveling becomes quite unbalanced, it could always be changed.

[DrSpike]

And you get the added bonus of watching the kiddies whine that their favourite powerlevelling tactic has gone.

"Waaaah, smoke grenade was *supposed* to debuff mob accuracy to 5% not 50%, and stack so that multiple grenades reduced accuracy to 0%........it's all we have, now I have a gimped level 30 character..........WAAAAH"

Paraphrased, but not entirely made up.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by DrSpike
And you get the added bonus of watching the kiddies whine that their favourite powerlevelling tactic has gone.

"Waaaah, smoke grenade was *supposed* to debuff mob accuracy to 5% not 50%, and stack so that multiple grenades reduced accuracy to 0%........it's all we have, now I have a gimped level 30 character..........WAAAAH"

Paraphrased, but not entirely made up.

Yeah, that's half the reason I always play underpowered or "gimped" characters. Not only because I like to be different, but when a ballance patch comes along everyone gets weakened while I get all sorts of neat new abilities and stuff.

Another thing I notice, is that after such a patch you'll tend see a rush of new characters - all conforming to what's considered to be the new "best".

[Tassadar500]

What's everyone going to be when the game comes out?

[DrSpike]

I thought I'd be a green gnome specialising in envy powers, with a boost to general pissedoffness.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by DrSpike
I thought I'd be a green gnome specialising in envy powers, with a boost to general pissedoffness.

I can't help but feel that you're mocking me.

[DrSpike]

Actually any similarity to your char is coincidental. I'm just mad I can't play.

[Panzeh]

My problem with MMORPGs is that they aren't really fun in the beginning. Grind grind grind, that's all it seems to be.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Actually any similarity to your char is coincidental. I'm just mad I can't play.

It wasn't my game character that I thought you where refering to, but myself.