so whats with all the people who are unhappy with the games they buy?

[Protra3211]

Well I picked up a game call Superpower and it was just a bug fest very hard to get to work . Put it on the shelf and forgot it .Thats was 2 years ago. But between patches and mods it so improved it worth playing again just never know
Look at Call to Power 2

[Dis]

ctp2 still doesn't seem like a good game to play.

or is it?

I must say I'm happy with my Sims2 purchase, but unhapy with my purchase of Doom3. Does that make me gay?

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by Dissident
ctp2 still doesn't seem like a good game to play.

or is it?

I must say I'm happy with my Sims2 purchase, but unhapy with my purchase of Doom3. Does that make me gay?

ref CTP2 it depends - i've always liked it(even the origonal!), it was a civ-like but better looking and sounding game to me Most of the Mods and updates that have been made for it just made it better for me. Still if you really hated it from the begining, then chances are you still will.

And yes very gay i'd say but its good to be happy

[General Ludd]

Pirating games is like bumming cigarettes.

[Ben Kenobi]

When GAME had its 10 day no-questions return policy it was not a problem. I could buy games I trusted to be good via import on day one and anything else I could buy from Game. If it sucked so badly I couldn't stand keeping it for 10 days, it went back. That allowed me to experiment with a wide range of games and barely half a dozen got returned.

That to me seems a reasonable compromise between piracy and between being stuck with a poor game.

If more companies did this, there would be no reason to pirate games in order to try them to see how they worked.

I know I did that with the Diablo 2 demo, before I added memory onto my computer, and the performance made a big difference and now I know I can run it properly.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by pg
I just thought I'd say when I made that post above I was a little pissed off for other reasons. Did anyone notice?

Anyways, I am getting sorta tired of the "gaming industry is DOOMED!"

Its not DOOMED. But perhaps it has only HALF of its LIFE left? Indeed, PIRATES! are a problem, but the PC game death spiral is almost certainly a FABLE, at least for now. I mean its not all BLACK and WHITE, you know.

[Barinthus]

[DrSpike]

/me approves.

[lord of the mark]

Good as I QUAKED to think what your reaction might be, and its a FAR CRY from what i feared would SMACk me in the face.

[DrSpike]

Don't push it.

[lord of the mark]

Thats ok, Im done.

[pg]

I read a post on quartertothree that says developers make about the same money developing $1 million games as $5 million+ games. Is this true? Maybe that's the problem...

[Dis]

all I can say is I'm very happy with my Sim2 purchase. As gay as this game is, I like it . But I'm unhappy with my Doom3 purchase.

I only bought 2 games this year (the 2 I listed above), and that's all I plan on buying. There are a couple games coming out in december, but I expect to get those as christmas presents

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Dissident
As gay as this game is, I like it .

They should put that on the cover.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by pg
I read a post on quartertothree that says developers make about the same money developing $1 million games as $5 million+ games. Is this true? Maybe that's the problem...

I must admit, to my shame, i dont know the site you mention(but i should be able to google it) - but yes if there is truth in that claim, then that will make many developers(well their funders) uncomfortable.
Still i just feel that games are costing way too much to make full stop.

As an interesting thought, we know that for a big release title its bugget will roughly be split 50/50 between marketing and development. Well a game i rather like, and think is a good game - has just been released(22/10/04) here in the uk.
Non of the main online review sites have a review of it - in fact its had such a non-marketing release, i wonder how many of you guys even know it came out.

I'm talking about 'LMA manager 2005' - the LMA series of football(soccer) managment games have been exclusively for console upto now. This latest release also has a PC version. It has its fans - i guess the thing it offers over other management games of its type(Championship Manager being the big daddy) is the very good real-time match engine, where you see your team play out your tactical choices - it does it very well.

Anyway i did wonder at this lack of marketing approach. The Codemasters are quite a smart outfit when it comes to games, and they've been in the industry since the early days.
Maybe they've decided a mass-marketing approach is too much of a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere(or not at all to save it?)?

We need to produce games more cheaply.