FG: Mafia XXV Signup thread

[Theben]

I think I'm ready to rejoin the ranks.

[Ljube]

1. Tuberski ( ACK!)
2. FlameFlash
3. bADGer
4. joncha
5. duck o' york
6. Kassiopeia
7. SnowFire
8. gjramsey
9. Skanky Burns
10. rah
11. Spaced Cowboy
12. Jonny
13. Whoha
14. Gamecube64
15. DrSpike
16. reismark
17. Theben
18.
19.
20.

[Adagio]

1. Tuberski ( ACK!)
2. FlameFlash
3. Adagio
4. joncha
5. duck o' york
6. Kassiopeia
7. SnowFire
8. gjramsey
9. Skanky Burns
10. rah
11. Spaced Cowboy
12. Jonny
13. Whoha
14. Gamecube64
15. DrSpike
16. reismark
17. Theben
18.
19.
20.


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[Tuberski]

How is it possible that we still have three spots open?

ACK!

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by reismark

Hey, I've been below Emperor for, like, forever, so I could give less than a crap about my post count - can't anyone get involved anymore just because the game looks like FUN?

Oh it is fun as well, I wouldn't play otherwise. As Skanky says if it pushes you to emperor whilst being fun, well, it's a nice bonus.

You may as well at least reply to say you agree. Thus starts the slippery slope.

[Frozzy]

I'll be a place filler. If I'm not banned.

[DrSpike]

Why would you be banned?

[SnowFire]

Oh, by the way, I ran the code to see the probabilities on Mafia games. These are baseline stats, if the clues are totally unhelpful and the villagers vote functionally randomly (on the other hand, the Mafia also kills randomly, so he can't seek out their rival Mafia and aim for 'em).

Chance	#M	#V
36.6%	2	24
38.0%	2	22
39.9%	2	20
41.8%	2	18
47.2%	3	21
45.5%	3	23

These were running, oh, 100,000 games or so each to get those percentages.

So, even if the GM is totally unhelpful, the Mafia still only wins 2/5 times, roughly. A double Mafia win should only happen around 1-2% of the time (I ran that too). This implies that clues should be evil and well-hidden to make things interesting.

By the way, the scale of the game doesn't seem to matter much; it sliiiightly increases the chances of the Mafia, but what matters most is the proportion. F'instance, 1 mafia / 11 villagers gives 36.7% chance of mafia victory (easily calculated by hand; this is an easy case); you see above that 2/22 gives 38.0%. Even 20/220 only gives 39.8% chance of mafia victory (that's gonna be a long game, I might add).

[Ben Kenobi]

Let the jolly jedi join!

[Ben Kenobi]

And let me be Pope!

[Hercules]

Originally posted by Kalius
I'll be a place filler. If I'm not banned.

Kalius: I think you are an unreliable player, with a history of late and missed postings in recent games, at crucial moments. If I was a GM I wouldn't allow you in the game.

Nothing personal. But I feel new players in games like this should be alerted about you and 'the not missed' NuclearMaster's, spoiling posting record.

OTOH maybe I have got you all wrong.

[Theben]

A good point, if not tactfully done. But I wouldn't ban him per se- maybe put him on a 'filler' list, so if the slots don't get filled up (not that that has ever been a problem with mafia before) he can join.

NM, OTOH, shouldn't be GM again, not for awhile, anyway. And no more than 1 game at a time.

[Sparrowhawk]

I would like to be in on this one (and a sign up thread that lasts longer then 24 hours...is this a good or a bad thing??)

[duke o' york]

I like the clues, however evil they may be. They make the 'poly mafia game different from others. In the "original" game then it's just players stood in a room and there's little or no role-playing, and you wouldn't want to give out clues to your identity as the mafia so it's just a case of stabbing in the dark.

[Ljube]

1. Tuberski ( ACK!)
2. FlameFlash
3. Adagio
4. joncha
5. duck o' york
6. Kassiopeia
7. SnowFire
8. gjramsey
9. Skanky Burns
10. rah
11. Spaced Cowboy
12. Jonny
13. Whoha
14. Gamecube64
15. DrSpike
16. reismark
17. Theben
18. Kalius
19. Ben Kenobi
20. Sparrowhawk


The list is full. The game will start in a couple of hours.