FG: Mafia XXIV: Jurassic Park

[Frozzy]

I vote Spaced, if it's not too late My ISP sucked arse last night.

[Kassiopeia]

It has been too late for many, many hours. Didn't find it necessary to call heads or tails then?

[Frozzy]

I couldn't care less.

[Ljube]

In these circumstances, I'll call tails for Frozzy to keep the game going

[Kassiopeia]

Well, Kalius is not interested, so why not. It's 50/50 in any case, and I could get the next part written up before I go to bed.

And what do you know, tails loses: Spaced lives, Kalius dies. Password for the .zip is "deliberation".

[Ljube]

So, who is Sean's next victim?

[Spaced Cowboy]

I pick heads....oh? too late!

[Hercules]

what drama

[Ljube]

OK, this is a pretty clear case. One killer is Hercules (very strong - the strongest man in history). The other is Ben Kenobi (religious, cross, Christianity). However, since you killed Frozzy, one of the mafias wins unless the one who is about to kill now, I guess it's Sean, kills the other one.

Will both mafias win if they survive, or just the one whose turn to kill comes? I suggest the latter to avoid mafia conspiracies.

[joncha]

IIRC, the last time that happened both Mafia won.

[Ljube]

Yes, but it was a lame solution.

It's like allied victory in Galactic Overlord. And it opens an avenue for exploitation by the mafias.

[SnowFire]

Yes, but it's pretty annoying that if both mafias survive, then the one that wins is whichever happens to be lucky enough to vote in the last night round. There'd be a distinct advantage to being the mafia who got that vote.

Besides, such an occurence SHOULD be rare. It takes a sublimely incompotent villagers (or else actively misleading clues) to have that happen; random chance should insure that a mafia win is rare enough, and a double mafia win is even rarer.

[Kassiopeia]

It's like allied victory in Galactic Overlord.

No, it's not. The Mafia never know of each other (and trying to contact the other is risky business at best), so they can not co-operate. And the other Mafia runs the risk of the other Mafia killing them accidentally or intentionally anyway, so there's motive to gun for the other Mafia too. It's definitely everything BUT the allied victory in GO. Nevermind the fact that a Mafia conspiracy would not wreck the game, because they still only can kill one person a turn together. The villagers will have a fighting chance, if they figure out the clues (granted, it seems they never do unless they're thrown at them ).

Like Snowfire said, I find it unfair that the advantage would be given completely arbitrarily based on who happens to be Mafia #1 or #2. And, like Snowfire said, it's not the fault of either Mafia if the villagers manage to let both live.

[Frozzy]

Well, Kalius is not interested, so why not.

I wasn't interested in calling because it was a stupid way to decide. Besides, you asked Spaced to.

[Kassiopeia]

I was assuming ("I take it that") that Spaced will, because you were firmly not present. Either one of the two ones in the tie may call heads or tails, this has been the case before, why would it not be now (unless one of the two completely ignored the toss. Krhm).

What particularly was stupid about it? We could use a new way to solve a tie, but what exactly would it be besides chance?