DESIGN: CtP2 Source Code released - our actions [brainstorm & discussion]

[Maquiladora]

More than 12 units, though, would be changing one of key gameplay elements... do we really need to do that?

Ive seen a few people complain about that (particularly civ2 players) that they couldnt move more units along a road when they wanted to path units. This doesnt necessaily mean increasing the army capacity (this would be extremely difficult i imagine and needless really), just the number that can exist on one tile for movement.

[SMIFFGIG]

well even if u could only group 12 but allow many more on the same square just to move through

its stupid when u have armies of 12 and cant move something like a spy past them without de-grouping the army

[Solver]

More than 12 units, though, would be changing one of key gameplay elements... do we really need to do that?

[SMIFFGIG]

Working PBEM and no rushbuy bug is all id like to see

for now...........right ?

[Maquiladora]

I think we have to be very careful about biting off more than we can chew; in fact we should go for a 'conservative expansion' of CTP2 ( @ Locutus).

Id agree with that and as the thread title says we're just doing a little brainstorming, the only reason i mentioning increasing the 12 unit limit is because someone mentioned it in one of those "if only" threads a long time ago, the last thing youd want is a continually ongoing project with no end.

Working PBEM and no rushbuy bug is all id like to see.

[SMIFFGIG]

a VERY badly implemented feature

a Civ3 style retreat could be good where they auto retreat depending on the surrounding land, what unit they are and a % value

or even the current way but when u retreat u still recieve heavy losses
u just dont lose all ur men (usually)

[Peter Triggs]

And it allows you to keep capturing slaves, too. I guess MrBaggins is right.

[Immortal Wombat]

Retreat is screwed in that the AI can't use it, so it just gives the human a totally unfair recon advantage. Even if the AI could use it, there's still an argument that it allows tactics that really shouldn't work.

[Solver]

How is retreat screwed?

Sci victory... hmm, well, I preferred the CtP1 one .

[MrBaggins]

Addition- Less cheesy scientific victory
Fix (if I recall correctly)- retreat ; just remove it

[Solver]

Well, yes, I understand and believe that there are going to be few people tampering with the source, but what I'm saying is, there WILL be those people, and stuff won't stop.

[MrBaggins]

Re: Minor Civilizations idea

I think that the only one to benefit from this would be the human player, since it takes skill which the computer doesn't have to make certain value judgements. The AI is already challenged enough. I don't want the playing field turning into an "Alpha Centuri situation" for the AI.

[SMIFFGIG]

IW has a very good point

As much as i would love to make a mod for Ctp2 and am very enthusiastic, i cant mod myself.

Except for modding Tiberian Sun in a big way, the fact that many people are on these boards and have enthusiasim is really nothing when there is only a handful of modders

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by Solver
IW - many here have enthusiasm for modding .

and many more have enthusiasm for other people doing modding.

[Solver]

Bad luck, eh .