CTP PBEM Challenge Ladder June 2006

[PrinceBolkonsky]

I like that you guys are using the wonders. When I first started playing pbem I naively thought that by only allowing the AIs to build wonders, the wonders would have less of an influence on the game. I thought this was a good thing because certain wonders seemed too powerful and therefore broken. To my surprise I found that allowing only the AIs to build wonders makes them only more unpredictable. Instead, they become more like wild cards. Allowing the humans to build wonders allows them to be used in a more premeditated fashion. I feel human built wonders add another layer of strategizing to the use of wonders. I also think that wonders help focus player attention on various interesting game dynamics and that this was a large part of their design emphasis. Finally, I think with very experienced players, none of the wonders are necessarily too powerful. I think wonders add a color and variety to play that helps make each game that much more unique.

[ricketyclik]

There are a lot of players here who don't like the use of wonders, because their influence can be too strong. Part of the game in my opinion.

[PrinceBolkonsky]

Today's Homily

Agreed, I've come to the conclusion that, "You can try to take the wonder out of CTP but you can't take the CTP out of its wonders".

[Cuaich]

Keygen kicked A$$

How's this for a late response!!

GREAT Game Keygen...I applauded you directly, but failed to do so on this forum. I enjoyed the competition, although I was never able to fully recover from an early set-back.

As for my delay in responding, and my slowness in playing, I am afraid I have moved and have had ongoing issues with internet connectivity at my new home. As well, my work computer has been reworked and CTP removed.

However, I am hoping to be back at it in a short while, although I may have to move again IN 3 WEEKS!!...UGH. But as long as I stay one step ahead of he law...

So, bring on the challenges...and theHappies, we will finish our game, come heck or high water!

Originally posted by Keygen
Cuaich capitulated at turn 142 in our game, after having lost 19 cities

Good game Cuaich

Game #: 154
Winner: Keygen
Completion date: March 21st 2007
Turns: 142

[PrinceBolkonsky]

Challanges for Keygen and Cuaich

Cuaich,

Let me be the first to challange you then. Since my defeat of iDestroy I am within range for a challange.

Keygen,

Once again, I challange you as well. This is the second attempt. Do you fear the Prince?

[quinns]

Re: Books, Question and a Challange

Originally posted by PrinceBolkonsky


Quinns- I have a question



Also, I have a challange game against Quinns that began at the same time as the game between iDestroy and Quinns. Were all of us too far apart?

Quinns- Wasn't our game a challange game? I realize now that our game was setup over e-mail and not on the ladder thread. Perhaps you thought it was not a challange. It slipped my mind to inform AP and get a number.

Yes, Prince. All my games are challenges -- up or down!

[quinns]

A note on challenges:

The "3-up" challenge note was intended to prevent players from "demanding" a challenge from a position much lower to a player with a position much higher. Any challenge can be made. It is just that if the player is within three of you, then you are "obliged" to accept the challenge barring a "reasonable" excuse. However, once you accept the challenge (from any player at any level) it cannot be withdrawn.

That was the intent, anyway.

[TheBirdMan]

Originally posted by quinns
A note on challenges:

The "3-up" challenge note was intended to prevent players from "demanding" a challenge from a position much lower to a player with a position much higher. Any challenge can be made. It is just that if the player is within three of you, then you are "obliged" to accept the challenge barring a "reasonable" excuse. However, once you accept the challenge (from any player at any level) it cannot be withdrawn.

That was the intent, anyway.

And the way I would like it to be. What I voted NO to was that any deity player could challenge any other deity player on the ladder.

BTW: I have only one active challengegame (against Quinns) and one pending (Milamber - waiting for Keygen to set up the game).

Any others, who want to get feathers i their mouth ?????

TBM

[Cuaich]

PrinceB...I gladly accept your challenge, with one caveat. I am currently without internetat home, where I play these games, so give me a chance to rectify that situations and I will gladly kick your a...

er...

I mean...meet you on the field of battle!

[hatschy]

Originally posted by TheBirdMan
...
Any others, who want to get feathers i their mouth ?????

TBM

Feathers in my mouth ? Ahh yes, you mean the annoying remains after driving my teeth deep into the flesh of a little birdie, crushing all his bones and guzzling down the unfortunate creature in bite-sized pieces

So you want to be challenged? Ok, here we go. I suggest standard rules except difficulty: Deity, Barbarians: Raging Hordes, doughnut world, no ruins (RUINS_CHANCE_PER_BOX == 0). If you prefer different rules, then that's ok too.

[quinns]

To make a fair game, add the wet at 100%, and hot at 100%. This gives both players a river, almost always.

[TheBirdMan]

Originally posted by hatschy

Feathers in my mouth ? Ahh yes, you mean the annoying remains after driving my teeth deep into the flesh of a little birdie, crushing all his bones and guzzling down the unfortunate creature in bite-sized pieces

So you want to be challenged? Ok, here we go. I suggest standard rules except difficulty: Deity, Barbarians: Raging Hordes, doughnut world, no ruins (RUINS_CHANCE_PER_BOX == 0). If you prefer different rules, then that's ok too.

I don't like the standard...... I'll mail you some suggestions. Then we post here what settings we agree to.

[TheBirdMan]

Originally posted by TheBirdMan


I don't like the standard...... I'll mail you some suggestions. Then we post here what settings we agree to.

Game started 13th May. We are now at turn 10.


Settings agreed upon:

Players

Max: England
Hatschy: Wales

AI: 2. Scotland and Scandinavia (Vikings).


Settings

Skill level: Deity
Barbarian threat: Ruins only (no ruins, no barbarians)
Map Size: Huge
World Shape: Doughnut
Bloodlust: OFF
Pollution: ON
Civilizations: 4


Scenario: PBEM Mod Lite (Keygens)


Special

No Ruins
No Wonders Allowed except EMANCIPATION ACT and WORMHOLE DETECTOR. We are not allowed to conquer a AI-city with wonders, but we may destroy it.

Map

Wet/Dry: 60%
Warm/Cold: 40%
Ocean/Land: 40%
Island/Continent: 50%
Uniform/Diverse: 100%
Few Goods/Many Goods: 100%

[iDestroy]

well, starting out bad early on this ladder

i have been doing everything but destroying in my first 2 games. changing things up, in the game against ricketyclik i tried to rush for theocracy and used scientists really early in the game, yes it was stupid. not trying that again.

I CONCEDE TO RICKETYCLIK. there i said it. we're starting a new game right now. so we need a new game number. this time i should be tougher rickety, not going to try in anything stupid this time.

i must be the bottom of the bottom now.

[Grandpa Troll]

Re: well, starting out bad early on this ladder

Originally posted by iDestroy
i have been doing everything but destroying in my first 2 games. changing things up, in the game against ricketyclik i tried to rush for theocracy and used scientists really early in the game, yes it was stupid. not trying that again.

I CONCEDE TO RICKETYCLIK. there i said it. we're starting a new game right now. so we need a new game number. this time i should be tougher rickety, not going to try in anything stupid this time.

i must be the bottom of the bottom now.

Hang in there kid, be tough, dun take no gruff off ol ricketyclik