Beyond Alpha Centauri: Discussion Thread

[Kassiopeia]

Hope you don't mind that I blew up Klyder. I did say I would, though!

I did not invest much of my time in Klyder, but I think he's just the type of military guy who prefers blowing himself up rather then getting caught.

Originally posted by Sprayber
Kass: I was wondering if you were going to write more about those two guys that we first saw on the moon? This may seem strange but I was messing around on a Star Wars site and I ran across a quote from the Star Wars novel that never made it to the movie.

"they were in the the wrong place at the wrong time, naturally they became heroes."

I couldn't help but think about those guys

Actually, I sort of thought of R2D2 and C3PO myself when I pulled them up my sleeve. They are the typical type of normal people who just get into the wrong places on the wrong time. I think the pair of them wandering on the deserted surface of Moon resembled the scene where the droids walk on Tatoiine after the escape pod crashes.

I wonder how their ship-sighting trip to Callisto succeeded? At least more Morganite ships if nothing else.

One more thing before I finish up my long overdo post. Do you think i would be appropriate if the Spartans would have three or four undercover agents inside the Sol system. And one on Calisto.

I'd be more surprised if there wouldn't be some Spartan agents in Sol system.

They are from Middle Earth, in other words, Europe!

Bizarre, I'm just reading LotR.

LMP, your idea seems intriguing, is this the one you told about in the Chiron Chronicle about an aeon ago?

[Sprayber]

Added a map

I added a Map of Spartan territory.

Tell me if anyone has any problem with it.

I couldn't remember if someone had Arcturus or Formalhaut or not so if you do tell me

Look at the map and I will be happy to add your territory if you wish to designate it.

Kass: Did you have Wolf 359 and Capella? Also I plan to have two agents on Callisto, only one on Earth, and maybe on Mars. But they are there to observe. They won't even let the Morganites know they are there.

http://www.geocities.com/kessel74/SpartanMap.html

[Kassiopeia]

Re: Added a map

Originally posted by Sprayber
Kass: Did you have Wolf 359 and Capella?

To my recollect, Terran Alliance has a colony on Wolf359, interfactionally kept, and Coalition has an older colony on Capella all by itself. At least I think that is what we agreed upon.

[[LordLMP]]

History, why can't we have Orcs in space? :P we have Vulcans and Romulans, who look like elves to me :P

also, it is not proven that Orcs and Elves existed on Earth lol

they may or may not in that universe, but i have an idea from another game Qaiyore in the play made universe called Celandra.
then later tried to make a sci-fi version 100 000 thousand years or after the Fantasy one.. with an explination as to how magic existed and so on

Love,
-Melanie

[[LordLMP]]

we discussed that the Terran Alliance as control of Capella as its only colony system.... but i discovered that it was a bit far and requires going through others territories. it is also bit to far from the Proginators for to have enough interest in to probe attack it.

so i suggest that Terran Alliance as Wolf 359 instead of Capella, which is closer and more easier for TA to defend and keep track of.... do realize, takes a day to travel 5 years with an Sol FTL :P If Capella got attacked and Sol loose contact with it, could take a fleet a few days to get there in response, but with Wolf 359 takes just over a day.

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

I suppose this would be the perfect spot for Cybergod and Nova Saturna to get churnin'.

If Capella got attacked and Sol loose contact with it, could take a fleet a few days to get there in response, but with Wolf 359 takes just over a day.

Quite true, it is long ways to Capella, but in the days when the Terrans were dying to get an outer colony this suited them the most.
And remember, in a few centuries, as the only habitable planet Terra Nova drifts close enough to the primary star of the system, the colony will have to be emptied. Then Venus is like Siberia compared to the hellhole. Reminds me of a planet called Hell^3.

[Frankychan]

I'm back from Las Vegas

Sorry that I haven't responded in a while,

I forgot to mention that I was going to Vegas with my friends from Jan. 5-11. Well, just telling you all that I'm back...if you were wondering where I went. Now I gotta catch up with what's happened...

What about the Hive's involvement in the InEn/Morgan conflict?

[Cybergod]

Kass can I do this:

* With the code we stole from InEn, , we hack into their systems and take control of the locked up Orbital Cannon. Our technitians adjust it to be used in space combat (so any incoming enemy ships will be sliced)
* We sell the code to the highest bidder (but probably not Morgan since the Terran Alliance would consider Nova Saturna traitors) and with the money buy some new ships and hire Belter mercenaries.
* We contact the TAF commodore in the Saturn region and caution him not to take any hostile action against us or he will be met by a formidable force
* During the preocupation of everyone else with the InEn/Morgan war, we seize the chance and pronounce independence. Few InEn troops and ships are blasted out of existance but the TAF commodore takes little action, just ordering retreat of other forces out of the region. (He may later seek assylium within Nova Saturna)
* Nichollas buddies on Mars conduct a campaign for Titan's independence and membership within the TA
* Maria Sanchez is crowned Queen Maria of Saturna, with Nichollas being her Psych and Populance Advisor, Tanaka being her Scince Administrator, and Nichollas' friend, Anita Delitz (you'l meet her in the story soon), head of the economy (you the SE screen? ECON, PSYCH, LABS? ).

[Kassiopeia]

Ok, remember that the revolt is taking place simultainously as Callisto is being under siege.

Btw LMP, if you do the description of Terran Alliance military structure, I could do a descr. of the Terran Alliance Political structure? Share the burden...

Originally posted by Cybergod
* We contact the TAF commodore in the Saturn region and caution him not to take any hostile action against us or he will be met by a formidable force

As far as I'm considered the TAF won't interfere into squabbling inside member factions.

* We sell the code to the highest bidder (but probably not Morgan since the Terran Alliance would consider Nova Saturna traitors)

But, NS did sell the information on how to penetrate the Callisto scanners, did it not?
They could sell it to the Hive, so that we can get them into play.

The TAF could not care less (also because they are focusing completely on rooting the Morganites out from Callisto).
And the Coalition marines won't have enough time to land and completely suffocate the rebellion, until it's too late from their PoV. Could have a single Marine Corps lander come in, but be surrounded by the rebels?

With the code we stole from InEn, , we hack into their systems and take control of the locked up Orbital Cannon. Our technitians adjust it to be used in space combat (so any incoming enemy ships will be sliced)

I thought the Magistrates held codes to the Orbital defense systems. Why would InEn be involved there... Of course, if it's InEn manufactured, and the code is a "backdoor" to the system!

So Nova Saturna stole at least two data packs from the Moonbase Delta Seven; the backdoor key of the Orbital defense cannon orbiting Titan and detailed technical data of the Scanner platforms around Callisto.

[Kassiopeia]

Just thinking... Someone mentioned the Geneva Convention. I found the text, and thought that it should be integrated to the founding of the Terran Alliance, so I could remodify it to suit 28th century conditions, at least in the most important parts since like any diplomatical document it's asseninely long.
Or I could just use it as a basis to create a whole new Code, probably the Second Geneva Code or something like that. Regards Aliens and all that.

Oh, I have way too much spare time.

[Cybergod]

The InEn was mostly in control until the government shift after the xenophobic government left, they locked up the Cannon and only they and they high chain of command jnew exactly what it was (others only knew of it as a rumour). And it was InEn manufactured.

I'll make it so that the last TAF/EC unit of marines is rooted out of the system as they are surounded by rebels wherever they go.

Hey who gave the orders to sell the data to Morgan? (Oh yeah it was me ) Doesn't matter, my story needed adapting anyway . I am not sure about the Hive - do we want imperialists usurping back into the precious Sol system?

Regarding the Geneva Code, they could well be one in place in space! Maybe like a Civilized Species Charter, containing stuff like not interfeiring with the development of the creche worlds (ie. developing worlds, imagine the Progenitors landing on Earth while Jesus was crucified ) and let them develop and evolve or waste and destroy until they reach advanced spaceflight and establish space colonies.

[Cybergod]

In the previous post, by IT I meant the orbital defence cannon

[Sprayber]

The Chiron factions most definitly have treaties dealing with warfare between them. But the Aliens would be left out. As far as the Terrans go, I would think that there has been enough contact to formalize something in the way of basic guidlines for interaction. Up until now, factions like the Spartans had little formal contact except for a network of undercover agents maybe. Military planners in Sparta are not lost to the fact that the Terrans have an enormous population and have a potential to cause problems in the future. So far though, Sparta has seen the disunity in the Terran political structure and was comfortable. Now though many are getting uncomfortable. Don't be surprised if Sparta will use every opportunity to sow dissention and work to further fragment the Terran political structure. That is how the Spartans see it from a far. It may not represent reality in the Sol system, but that is how it is seen in the Syrma system.

If you want an outside party that is willing to help most colonies achieve some sort of independence then the Spartans would be a good place to start. They are most eager to divide the Terrans as much as possible. that and counter any influience, real or imagined, that the hive has in Sol. Remember also that there are many independent worlds out there. Some of them can provide support and arms maybe but of course it would be difficult to get them inside the Sol system. If you make up a planet and name, just rememeber that they will all be some sort of combination of the chiron factions since they came from their ranks. Lets just not get too many of them though. And maybe the Spartans may use that masking trick I talked about soon to deliever arms or something if any of you guys wish it.

[Frankychan]

Hive perspective in Sol system

Hi everyone,

Coming from the Hive perspective I see the Sol system events as so...

Emperor Yang wants the Terran Alliance as unified as possible so that they can fight the Morganites. With the Sol system fighting against the Nwabudike, Morgan Interstellar will be weakened and therefore unable to supply Kessel and Sparta with weaponry to be used against the G.H.E.

Unlike Sparta, the Hive needs all the Terran factions united under one banner so they will cause maximum damage to Morgan.

With the Terrans and Morgan Interstellar engaged in war, the G.H.E. can hopefully face Sparta head-on.

So, I guess the Emperor supports Terra just for convenience...

[Cybergod]

Re: Hive perspective in Sol system

Originally posted by frankychan
So, I guess the Emperor supports Terra just for convenience...

So does the emperor wish to have any business with Nova Saturna?