Chiron Chronicles: Planetary Council

[[LordLMP]]

By default, everything svensgaard says in the council is for the council to hear...

[OOC: ...unless privately address to someone]

Originally posted by Argonaut
General Address
From: Datajack Roze
To: Planetary Council

All right Captain, I will concede. I will not be a hypocrite in this matter. As all it means is restricting my units to within my own borders, which is the result of recent policies anyway, I am willing to support your accord. Am I right in the assumption that each faction will be allowed to maintain an offensive capable force for purposes of defence? If that is the case, then I'm willing to be the first faction with the "guts" to support your motion. But if Datatech territory is attacked, we will respond with whatever force we deem necessary, including the possibility of an attack on the agressor faction(s)' territory. If those stipulations are acceptable Captain, then you have my support. It can't hurt I suppose.

Yes, my proposal would alow factions to keep their offensive abilities, aslong as they stay within their borders.

Captain Svensgaard

[[LordLMP]]

Svensgaard as been paying attention to Solo almost the whole time he was at the council. He doesn't trust the Spartans and has good reason. Something in Solo's eyes and the way he grinned before he spoke. The Spartans are up to something.

1. Athens Outpost is a direct affront to Spartan sovereignty. It is an attempt to goad us into war by the Pirates. We believe that it was done with PK approval.

And Fleet Anchorage is not to the Nautilus Pirates? Athen Outpost was establish in a territory not claimed by the Spartans, so we had all the rights in establishing it. Besides, the outpost is simply defensive.

2. Pirate aggression at sea. Officially, the Pirate government disapproves of piracy. But unofficially they use it as a means of harassment and profiteering. Their so called escort of vessels are an affront to national sovereignty.

You ar mistaken, the Nautilus government doesn't SUPPORT piracy, which is a big difference to dissaproving. How can escort of vessels be an affront to national sovereignty, especially when it was the Merchants, of various Factionalities, who requested escort? Under the Global Trade Agreement, we have the rights to accept these requests.

3. Believer security. The Cult is a threat to humanity as long as it is allowed to use native organisms as weapons. And it is not lost on us that many of you have allowed them to harvest these on your territories. We will not compromise on Believer security from native attacks or from conventional attacks.

As far as i am concerned, there wasn't a single Cult controlled mindworms who have ever entered believer territory. Any believer units who has been attacked by Cult Mindworms were within Cult territory. Also, the Believers are the aggressors, not the Cult. Anyway, the Gaians use mindworms, are they threat to Humanity?

4. PK naivety. What else needs to be said.

Spartans, what else needs to be said?

5. Factional rights. We in Sparta believe that the term faction is outdated. I believe that the Hive and many others will concur that our societies have outgrown the need to continue the charade of a unified mission. We do recognize that cooperation is important., but not at the expense of independence. Internal affairs should be left out of any discussion in this council, unless those disputes cross over into another’s territory. This would include certain attempts to spread propaganda to a nations citizens for the sole purpose of inciting riots and rebellion.

The word Faction suits us fine and besides, we simply cannot see the Spartans as a nation.

6. Colonization. We respect the right of a nation to expand. But we do not approve of factions expanding for the sole purpose of stealing future lands from another. We also think that the Pirate’s practice of setting up sea bases along the coast of another’s territory is nothing more than attempts at strangulation. They set up a base off the coast and complain when their territory is violated. In our view, it is simple theft. Those who colonize close to another’s are looking for one thing. That is confrontation.

Stealing Future lands? Who determines which lands will belong to whom? Well, I see the Spartans guilty in that matter as they stole "Future Lands" by establishing Fleet Anchorage. In reality, if you wanted certain territory, then get it before someone else does. Ain't our fault that the Spartans are to slow to claim the territory where Athens is located when we established it. It isn't theft, it it is getting to it before someone else does and the Spartans never claim the territory there. Words do not work in such matters.

As for Nautilus bases, we do not establish them off the coast. Actually, the closest to a coast we ever established a base is about 2000 kilometres. How is that off-the coast, hmm? If a faction wanted to control the waters near a coast, they simply got to establish a Base on that coast.

If our opponents are interested in peace, then I think they should have no problem in seeking a solution from a third party.” Solo turns to the Cult member. “If your little prophet truly thinks that Sparta is afraid of you or your little worms, then the Colonel invites you to try whatever you have to. We have many interesting ways of killing your little worms. The crackling sound of worms being flamed is a soothing one in Sparta. Perhaps you shall hear it soon.” Solo turn to his desk and transmits a written list of the Spartan points to the Morganites and other members of the council.

The Nautilus Pirates doesn't have any relations with the Cult, but if the Spartans ever place a single foot in Cult territory, the Pirates will declare vendetta on the basis of interfering in another Faction's Sovereignty and inteferating in a conflict solely between the Cult and the Believers. We are not fond of gang ups and bullying.


Captain Svensgaard

[Natan]

From: Sau-ji Tseng
To: The Planetary Council
We object to the Planet Cult's second vote. Elections for Planetary governor are to be held once every ten years, casting a second vote essentially constitutes a second election.
We believe that further negotiations and council proposals should be postponed until after the elections, and that negotiations should be conducted between the parties concerned without editorial comments from other factions. We would, however, like to clarify our position on the Cult's activities. The Hive has no objection, in principle, to the right of all factions to do as they please with their territory. No faction, however, has the right to let their territory be used as a base to attack other factions. It is now believed that all of the xenofungus patches and mindworm boils of Planet are in some way connected to each other. By aiding them, the Cult is aiding their attacks on other factions, and this is not acceptable.

[[LordLMP]]

From: Sau-ji Tseng
To: Council

Firstly, I would like to adress the honorable representative of Captain Svensgard. If the Captain does not think the cause of removing our forces from the western continent sufficiently important to his faction to warrant concessions on his part, then so be it. But he should know that the Hive is not his lackey, nor is it intimidated by his veiled threats. We will not abandon our friends and allies, and we will not withdraw from the western continent without assurances of the continued security of our faction and of our allies.

The Hive is helping the AGGRESSOR, as it was the Believers who started the war with the Cult, for the third time. It is the Hive who are at Fault.

Furthermore, we would like to call attention to the blatant interference of the Pirate faction in our affairs, and particularly in aiding and abetting a terrorist rebel movement in our territory, violating our faction waters, and sinking our vessels.

The Nautilus Pirates seriously do not care what goes within the Hive and we do not support terrorism. If the people of Nautilus citizenry join any Rebel movement within another Faction's territory, it is by their choice, not the Nautilus governments. The people of the Nautilus Pirates have the choice to do almost anything they want as we do not opperate a Police State. So you cannot blame the Nautilus Pirates as a whole for what a few as done out of their own choices. The last time the Nautilus Pirate ever sunk a Hive ship was in self-defence when we attempting a peaceful mission of evacuating some people by their request, which we accepted on the basis that they were being oppressed. We have been through this countless times before and I see no reason why you should continue to bring this up in the council.

I would also like to adress ambassador Quzer of the Cult of Planet. Your faction, ambassador, is like a man on a ship starts tearing up the planks in his cabin. As the water begins to pour into the ship, the other passengers approach him and demand that he stop. He responds "it is my cabin, I have the right to do as I please." Your reckless manipulation of Planet's native life is endangering us all, and your patronizing pontifications (or are they veiled threats?) are not fooling anyone.

This little story can also be use about the ones who like to pollute a lot like the Hive, Spartans, Believers and etc.



Captain Svensgaard

[Sprayber]

The Nautilus Pirates doesn't have any relations with the Cult, but if the Spartans ever place a single foot in Cult territory, the Pirates will declare vendetta on the basis of interfering in another Faction's Sovereignty and inteferating in a conflict solely between the Cult and the Believers. We are not fond of gang ups and bullying.

From: Colonel Santiago
To: Planetary Council

Then go ahead and declare your vendetta now Captain, cause we will not be told what to do by you or any other leader on this planet. You have wanted war for a very long time. We see that you will have it one way or another. So I say again, declare your vendetta for I am tired of your adolesant postering.

As for the rest of Chiron. You have seen who has started things here today. The Pirates want to set themselves up as the final authority on Chiron. I suppose some of you may profit from this if you serve a purpose to them. but Sparta will not live like that. We will defend ourself at all costs and we will not bow down before anyone. We have no problem with any of the rest of you. But if you help our eneimes than you will become Sparta's enemy. This is a sad day that the immaturity of a single individual has brought us to the brink of war once again. But we will not back down. I suppose that Svensgard was afraid to trust a third party to settle disputes. Instead he beats his chest like so many claim that I do.

[Guardian]

Things appear to have settled somewhat in the U.N. delegation, and they don't appear to be leaving...

Ambassador Fuentes stands up to speak again...

"Well, Mr. Solo. I suppose this is your big chance. I will not 'stick my nose' into this matter at all. It's all yours to sort out on your own. That's what you've been crying for all along, isn't it?"

"As for the Cult's sudden second vote, we won't 'stick our heads' into that matter either, except to say that such a move is certainly not standard procedure." She pauses, then turns to face Morgan. "As acting Planetary Governor, I believe this matter is yours to sort out, Mr. Morgan."

Another pause.
"Now, Mr. Sau-ji Tseng of the Hive said something interesting a little while ago..."

Secondly, I would like to adress ambassador Fuentes. I suggest that if her faction does not desire to be blamed for what goes wrong in all parts of the world, that it not stick its head into all parts of the world. It is only natural that once you proclaim yourself the rightful ruler of the earth, your subjects demand an accounting. You seem to think you can solve the world's problems, so naturally, we blame you when you fail at this task which you have chosen for yourselves.

"In other words: when we see a potential problem and want to address it before it gets too big, you resist us with all your might and won't let us anywhere near it. Then, when things do go wrong, you suddenly become our 'subjects' and blame us for not fixing it. Nice logic! Convenient for you, no doubt, but hardly productive."

[Kassiopeia]

From: Father Deacon
To: Planetary Council

Originally posted by Cpt. Svensgaard
The Hive is helping the AGGRESSOR, as it was the Believers who started the war with the Cult, for the third time. It is the Hive who are at Fault.

The two earlier Crusades have been settled with. The third one, however, was caused by the Cultists using native lifeforms in a desperate attempt to take over our borderline bases without giving us a "legal" right to defend ourselves.
But that is for now the matter of past. It is not healthy to seek the guilty in the forthcoming accords, since in wars there aren't guilty people, something that was still denied in the old Earth, and sometimes even on this world.
Outrageous human rights violations are another matter, and if with that right the Council would like to initiate a witch hunt to imprison human rights violationalists, I suggest they take the next flight to Dawn of Planet.
Captain Svensgaard sounds like a little child after a fight, pointing at the other one and crying: "But he started it!"

Father Theodore Deacon

[DarkCloud]

Originally posted by Sprayber
From: Representative Solo
To: Planetary Council

I must protest. The Cult has already made it’s vote and it has been recorded. There are procedures that must be followed. If the Cult wishes to vote for our esteemed Datajack Rose, they will have to wait until the next election. They have made their decision, nowlet them deal with it. If they can change their mind on this now, how can we consider negotiating with them over important matters in the future. Now is the time in which they show us if they can be counted on to be reliable. Sparta and the rest of the world waits and watches. Does it not seem strange that the Cult now says that the Angels are worthy of their vote?

[OOC: What. Do you think the Spartans wouldn’t notice or care?]

From: Head Academician Prokhor Zakharov
To: Planetary Council

As much as the University would love to support the Cult's change of vote; the Cult of Planet must abide to the established procedures until those procedures are changed.

(OOC: yes, I know he is being hypocritical )

[DarkCloud]

From: Ambassador Ian Davidson-Splertovsky
To: Planetary Council

The University does realize that the Pirate's commander, Svensgaard, does not have full control over all of his people; neither do the other factions- but this ruthless pillaging of seaports and seavessels must be stopped...

If Svensgaard is forced to send the energy and goods recovered from captured pirates, to factions molested by his men, who can use the profits from the goods to equip their seavessels, then the University will withdraw its complaint against Svensgaard.

[Mr. President]

[Many eyes on Morgan...]

The regulations are clear on the issue of a faction changing its vote. The Cult of Planet's vote has already been registered, and may not now be changed.

How we reached this point is not at all clear to me. But since I am the Planetary Governor for a few more days, I would like to point out that neither the Pirates nor the Spartans have recognizable reasons for Vendetta under the U.N. Charter. The relative maturity [flashes a sharp glance out of the corner of his eye] of Captain Svensgaard is irrelevant. If either faction proceeds with aggression against the other, they will face penalties from the Council.

My position on the Western Continent remains the same. The peace process must move forward, and it must be moved forward by all means available to us. If you truly want progress [makes eye contact with Solo, Svensgaard, Deacon, Quzer, Tseng in that order] then pursue it seriously. No more talk of "permanent vendetta". No more name-calling. No more finger-pointing, no more veiled threats, and no more Solomon complexes! Anything you want, you work for. Anything you do not work for, you do not deserve.

[Guardian]

After his last little speech, Isabella Fuentes makes eye contact with Morgan and nods lightly...

[Cyber]

(OOC: You could change ones vote in Alpha Centauri. Well, not your own after you put it down, but some one elses. So in the game you atleast have a chance to change votes, once they´ve been put down, so why not here?
So, I didn´t know there were any regulations concerning the matter.)


From: Cult Ambassador Quzer
To: Planetary Council

You´re right, Governor Morgan. This blaming is getting over board. The peace process is now all that matters. I just hope that all sides understand it.

Also, Governor Morgan, this is not accepting our vote is absurd. I would like to file a complaint about your decision to not accept our change of votes, or "second" vote as some here might say.
First of all this is such an important matter, that we should not obey the rules blindly. Don´t you think that getting each faction´s truthful vote, and not bog down in a bureacratical fight over what is correct and what is not, is the most important.
But, governor, if you leave your decision like this, you risk a situation of the future winner to be elected as the next planetary governor, only because of a bureucratic mixup. A glorious way to win, I must say.
Also, it opens a possibility for whoever faction leader having trouble with the future governor, to not recognise the governors power on the basis of this mixup.

[Kassiopeia]

From: Father Theodore Deacon
To: Planetary Council

Also, Governor Morgan, this is not accepting our vote is absurd. I would like to file a complaint about your decision to not accept our change of votes, or "second" vote as some here might say.
First of all this is such an important matter, that we should not obey the rules blindly.

Give the Devil your finger, and soon he shall take your entire hand.

But, governor, if you leave your decision like this, you risk a situation of the future winner to be elected as the next planetary governor, only because of a bureucratic mixup. A glorious way to win, I must say.
Also, it opens a possibility for whoever faction leader having trouble with the future governor, to not recognise the governors power on the basis of this mixup.

But, if your favorite, Datajack Roze, wins, then would her possibly decisive vote be the one cast by you afterwards? I'll say, that at least would question her position!

Father Theodore Deacon

[Cyber]

From: Cult Ambassador Quzer
To: Planetary Council

Father Deacon, in that situation atleast Datajack Roze would win with the help of a vote, not with the help of bureucratic jibberish. Besides, the Planetary elections aren´t over yet, so I can´t see what is the harm in registering our change of vote.
But argument between us two won´t help the situation. Instead we should concentrate in the upcoming peace talks.
Let us what see what the Governor has to say.

[Kassiopeia]

From: Father Theodore Deacon
To: Ambassador Quzer
Cc: Planetary Council

Very well. I do trust the governors capabilities in resolving this minor dispute.
Now, the Believers have committed already to initiate the negotiations at a location selected and hosted by the next Planetary Governor, in this case either Datajack Roze or Colonel Santiago. Thus the arrangements fall on hers to do.
What I would like to ask that there is a larger mediating staff present, and the whole Peace Congress would consist of:

- Three Believing representatives
- Three Cultists
- Three Peacekeepers
- Three Free Drones
- Three Spartans.

Father Theodore Deacon