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[d=me]

Mariam, santiago and yang are fighting with me. I'm winning against yang. The first 2 factions are very weak but I don't know why they would still make crass demands and declared war on me when I told them that they aren't getting anything.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by d=me
Mariam, santiago and yang are fighting with me. I'm winning against yang. The first 2 factions are very weak but I don't know why they would still make crass demands and declared war on me when I told them that they aren't getting anything.

err because the AI is stupid ??

Attack the weak and take a base or five and you will gain a submissive ally. You can then improve a few of their old bases and then give them back to that submissive for lots of income

[d=me]

But I have to keep attacking yang to make sure that he doesn't have time to rebuild and build like 100 rovers then it becomes unstopable.

What does a submissive ally do? And I want to rescue the Gaians but I don't know which base she is locked up in. And if you rescue her will she be your ally?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by d=me
But I have to keep attacking yang to make sure that he doesn't have time to rebuild and build like 100 rovers then it becomes unstopable.

Not a bad idea if Yang is that strong

Originally posted by d=me


What does a submissive ally do?

When they submit they give you all their tech and cash in return for a pact. You can often then extort any of their bases that you want other than their HQ (not sure about bases with a project) by threatening to break pact. Therafter thay will pretty much do as they are told including gifting cash from time to time

Originally posted by d=me
And I want to rescue the Gaians but I don't know which base she is locked up in. And if you rescue her will she be your ally?

Do a probe action on the HQ of the faction that captured her last base. If successful she wikll spawn a new small empire somewhere on the map and WILL be your submissive ally

[d=me]

Yang has too many bases. After the bombings many of his bases close to me were starved down from a big number to like a 3. Same with ALL of the spartan bases.

The Hive is on the other side of the map and I can't seem to be able to send a probe team there because it will just get killed on the way.

[Kataphraktoi]

I played a little on your later sav. notice how i used overwhelming amounts of concentrated air power,and i scrapped most of your useless naval fleet. i also probe raped yang, and have elite probes. you need to send LOTS of probes, and 3-4 transports to ferry units. youll want to do this,until you get experianced enough with the AI to take a whole empire out with 1 ground unit(like i am)

remember to farm your probe teams-leave a small isolated base you can sabotage over and over till your probe is elite. i lost 2-3 probes tihs way,but elite units-and elite probes-are worlds removed from their lesson bretheren, and stronger than linear mathematics would seem to indicate

[d=me]

This is what I did.

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=43865_NewGame1.SAV

[d=me]

Wait a second, something is wrong with the AI. Yang is no longer attacking me. He has 9 planes in one of his bases and he is just letting me bombard his enchancements. His planes are just sitting in his base. Is this a bug?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by d=me
Wait a second, something is wrong with the AI. Yang is no longer attacking me. He has 9 planes in one of his bases and he is just letting me bombard his enchancements. His planes are just sitting in his base. Is this a bug?

Did you also bombard bhis planes at all since sometimes I will see an AI leave turns in a base turn after turn to "heal" when damaged even though they are getting the crap bombed out of them

[Kataphraktoi]

actualy, the AI simply wont deploy planes unless it can see you,and its not agressive at that low level anyway. your perfectly safe in that game from air attack,i killed em all on the ground quickly myself.

honestly the AI is a sitting target in that game. you need to be alot more agressive,and making more units.you would win easily.

[d=me]

Originally posted by Flubber


Did you also bombard bhis planes at all since sometimes I will see an AI leave turns in a base turn after turn to "heal" when damaged even though they are getting the crap bombed out of them

His planes all have full health. I see them flying around but I don't know where they go. Could they be attacking the peacekeepers?

And to Kataphraktoi, actually I got many of my ships sunk and rovers blown up by enemy jets on librarian.

[d=me]

How to ensure that I can win the

Hunter seeker alogrithm
Space elevator
Human genome project
Network Backbone
Supercollider
Theory of Everything
Universal Translator

I'm willing to place all other projects on hold for them.

[Kataphraktoi]

d=me, the only problem you have is not enough units,and not agressive enough with the ones you have. you need to make a plan for removing the defenders of a base,and capturing that base. you need to deploy those probe units en masse and you need way more air units. you need to capture the WP at least!

[binTravkin]

I guess most people will agree with me, that Uni is indeed the most powerful faction (and I'm not talking about powergraph), some even say it's overpowered.

In addition there are several steps upon taking which Uni's advantage only grows:
1.Virtual World - if you do not complete this SP, you are on par on other 'powerful' factions, if you do, you've more than doubled (elaboration: to double it would be to net the same amount of energy node gives, but holotheatres net more energy because they allow you to support 2 more citizens which mostly leads to doubling of overall energy output) your main bonus - network nodes.
2.PTS - this is optional, but many players know how powerful Uni is in VW+PTS ICSing.
3.EG - Uni is usually first at this. Knowing your enemy is half of the victory (knowing thyself is the other half).
4.Doctrine Air Power, MMI and CBA - the fact is Uni can arrive at those techs by 50's-60's if played effectively which is soo much sooner than any other faction, once you've got CBA installed, you're the ruler of the skies and can take out even born-to-be-killers Sparta, Hive and Believers.
5.HSA - voila, you've just more than nullified your only malus!
6.Finally - Orbital Spaceflight, if you've went for D:AP early missing out the almost dogmatic resource lifting b-line (you can always steal them, can't you? trade at least!), you're far far away from others when reaching Orbital. Once you get your first nutsats up, enjoy booming for specialists which boost your research even more.

In the hands of expierenced and adaptive player University is the most feared enemy, while naturally agressor faction like Sparta is usually pitifully weak and backward.

[Kataphraktoi]

I guess most people will agree with me, that Uni is indeed the most powerful faction (and I'm not talking about powergraph), some even say it's overpowered.

In addition there are several steps upon taking which Uni's advantage only grows:
1.Virtual World - if you do not complete this SP, you are on par on other 'powerful' factions, if you do, you've more than doubled (elaboration: to double it would be to net the same amount of energy node gives, but holotheatres net more energy because they allow you to support 2 more citizens which mostly leads to doubling of overall energy output) your main bonus - network nodes.
2.PTS - this is optional, but many players know how powerful Uni is in VW+PTS ICSing.
3.EG - Uni is usually first at this. Knowing your enemy is half of the victory (knowing thyself is the other half).
4.Doctrine Air Power, MMI and CBA - the fact is Uni can arrive at those techs by 50's-60's if played effectively which is soo much sooner than any other faction, once you've got CBA installed, you're the ruler of the skies and can take out even born-to-be-killers Sparta, Hive and Believers.
5.HSA - voila, you've just more than nullified your only malus!
6.Finally - Orbital Spaceflight, if you've went for D:AP early missing out the almost dogmatic resource lifting b-line (you can always steal them, can't you? trade at least!), you're far far away from others when reaching Orbital. Once you get your first nutsats up, enjoy booming for specialists which boost your research even more.

So true...except 2 players tech trading can surpass or match a univ,and then where are you? Im going to be getting CBA and HSA in vets9 before walek, easily. ok,maybe walek isnt the best univ player, but you know i like univ, and i couldnt beat myself as drones to both of those. im also picking up the cloning vats (quite) quickly after CBA,so i would say they are in some trouble...

In the hands of expierenced and adaptive player University is the most feared enemy, while naturally agressor faction like Sparta is usually pitifully weak and backward.

Maybe 1v1. 4 player PBEM? Say on a boosted map like vets, i would say the Free drones fit this bill. They are a hugely powerful faction. Dont underestimate +3econ\+3 industry. fast transcend dosnt make or break the game.i would say the spartans have a few things going for them myself. i would not write off a spartan player as univ. ever play a non super-builder map?

Ironic that univ is my fav, but im arguing against them.