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The truth shouldn't hurt.
I think he was actually starting to believe his own story. A little reality was needed,It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
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No way Berz... He was putting words in your mouth... Lying about conversations with you... And as usual, he was being a total dick.
He keeps tying to blame others for his quitting.
He wants people to see him as a victim, and in reality, everybody else was a victim to his childishness.
Only Bennie Boy would quit in the middle of a draft because he didn't get a player he wants.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Perhaps the word "primarily" was poorly chosen, but you were a significant part of the reasons I resigned.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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Now please leave me out of this, Ben
So why do you keep acting like you did us a favor by quitting? We were depending on you.
I left early enough that you were able to find someone who could replace me, and draft a team that suited their preferences. I've been in many leagues where this wasn't the case (hell, I've been autodrafted a few times.
I'm not really getting why me leaving is more of a hardship than an autodrafted team.
Why are you still smearing the guy who you said was doing you a favor, Berz?
You're so thoughtful
Then why do you keep dragging me into this?
Ever think how I might feel about that?
You said I called my friends aholes, or that they were being aholes, and now you've said I warned you to keep your head down as if the people who just agreed to play with you really wanted an excuse to kick you out.
Do you honestly think that if Ming were doing to you what he is doing to me, that I'd be coming on here and telling you to 'confess your sins?'.
I did not tell you anything of the sort, I told you dont rock the boat or dont make waves. It was polite advice, dont make me regret asking you to join.
You conveyed your reason for quitting, you didn't get Roy Halladay. Would you have quit if you got him?
If so, what would you have told the league? Thats what you should have told the league, not have a fit about Roy Halladay.
I dont think you instructed me to tell the league why you quit
I remember having to decide if and how much to tell people and you just disappeared.
You left me hanging on that too and now you're blaming me for not reading your mind.
I suppose its also my fault you got booted from other leagues since you expected me to smooth things over with everyone.
And I'm supposed to apologize.
Ever have to apologize for someone who didn't really want to apologize?
You didn't ask me to apologize for you, but I think I did apologize for inviting you. If I didn't I should have. [b[You were getting a chance at redemption[/b]
No.
If you're offering me that now, that would be the first time I've EVER been offered a chance at redemption.
At least you still got Poly, you've been playing here for a few years.
Ming didn't make you quit and he hasn't quit any leagues for not getting a player... Ming has been a big reason we even have leagues.
Now please leave me out of this, BenScouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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We were LUCKY to find somebody else... if we hadn't, we would have been totally ****ed thanks to you.
The fact that we did find somebody doesn't change the fact that you screwed us.
For that, nobody could trust you in fantasy leagues after that.
Now, I've participated in more than 10 leagues over the years. Looking at my behavior would it indicate that I'm a player who cannot be trusted? Have I ever left a football league?
You can point to the times you didn't quit, and we can point to the time you did.
You made the right choice for yourself... not all involved.
Maybe you should take responsibility for your actions instead of trying to blame everybody else.
And maybe if you quit here, you would see a similar reaction.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostSo quitting is ok when you do it? And you get to blame others for it? Cool beans!
As you stated,
You were and are a good commish, JR. That I'm still a part of this league is proof positive. You'll be missed, I guarantee that.
Do I think you made the right decision here for the league? Yes. Do I think you made the right decision for yourself? Yes. Do I like the appointment of EPW as commish. Yes, I do.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
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Typical ben. You pleaded for Berz to speak up and back you up and then when he does you challenge everything he says since it didn't exactly jive with your version, and then have the audacity to tell him "You chose to get me involved in this". You were the one begging him to back you up.
You always try to make it about someone or something else. Grow up and take responsibility for your action (the quitting part). Your inability to do so and your consistent misrepresenting facts is the main people really dislike you.
What's there to like? You say you're nicer IRL. So what. Does that mean you're intentional an ******* here. If so, that could be another reason people treat you the way they do. You can't have it both ways. Try acting like the person you think you are here and maybe people would treat you better. Of course with you track record, it might be a waste of time.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Not calling anybody a liar... just reviewing the facts... you whined about your draft position and then quit THE MINUTE your player was taken by somebody else.You were the only person who ever screwed everybody by quitting in the middle of a draft
I left when I did rather then sticking you with an autodrafted league so that my replacement could have their own team. You bent over backwards for that player - giving him his choice of players to make up for it. You were willing to give him what amounted to his choice of players and his choice of position in the draft.
I'm glad it worked out, but it was funny to see how well you treated my replacement because you actually began to understand that the way you behaved was having a negative effect on the health of your league.
One might wonder that if you were having such personal issues
The draft had already started when I signed onto FFZ, and by that time I knew I didn't have a list of players to actually choose from.
Where was there time for reflection and consideration anywhere in it?
we have do have problems with people that quit in the middle of a draft.
You were the only person who ever screwed everybody by quitting in the middle of a draft.
Yep... they decide they don't want to play anymore, they don't QUIT. They don't make a commitment than bail when things don't go their way. Like you did.
You made the commitment and then bailed. You were the one that pulled the "Bull****"
Nobody could trust you wouldn't quit again in any other fantasy league because you didn't like your pick.
But keep trying to make it out like you are the victim... and not the people you screwed when you quit after making a commitment.
I don't think anybody here is buying your lame sob story how you are the victim.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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Typical ben. You pleaded for Berz to speak up and back you up and then when he does you challenge everything he says since it didn't exactly jive with your version, and then have the audacity to tell him "You chose to get me involved in this". You were the one begging him to back you up.
And yes, Berz is involved. He's also been trying to mediate this behind the scenes. I made my position clear to him that I'm willing to call a truce, but not a unilateral one. Apparently my olive branch hasn't been returned. Sad that.
You always try to make it about someone or something else.
I find it curious that he wrote something to you guys, but clearly not about my brother. Which probably explains most of what's gone on since.
Grow up and take responsibility for your action (the quitting part).
Your inability to do so and your consistent misrepresenting facts is the main people really dislike you.
Pretty much all the players here have backed up what I said.
What's there to like? You say you're nicer IRL. So what. Does that mean you're intentional an ******* here.
I was perfectly happy to let bygones be bygones.
If so, that could be another reason people treat you the way they do. You can't have it both ways.
Try acting like the person you think you are here and maybe people would treat you better. Of course with you track record, it might be a waste of time.
I'm not sure how rah gets to comment on me in RL, given your past behavior.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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There was a smooth transition with no delay
So if you're justifying your case in that the league was better without you as commish, then you've got no cause to be mad at me. Everything in the end worked out, except for me.
As I do for every league I play in. I blamed nobody at the time.
Your name only came up now, when you falsely claimed that your participation in fantasy football here was without incident.
Do you really want me to quote some of the things you've said to me privately, JR?
Sorry, but I couldn't let that lie pass without comment.
You'll be missed, I guarantee that.
Do I think you made the right decision here for the league? Yes. Do I think you made the right decision for yourself? Yes. Do I like the appointment of EPW as commish. Yes, I do. Those are straws, not beans, that you are grasping at.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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Only Bennie Boy would quit in the middle of a draft because he didn't get a player he wants.
Only JR would post private PMs in their entirety. Maybe I should post the *****y ones he sent me when he was league commish.
And only Rah would whine about his uninvolvement in a ****storm he started. The 'reasonable' one.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostSo which is it, Ming? Did I quit before a player was chosen, or did I quit in the middle of the draft.
Sounds like the middle of the draft to me. But feel free to try to blow some more smoke. You Quit after the draft had started.
I left when I did rather then sticking you with an autodrafted league so that my replacement could have their own team. You bent over backwards for that player - giving him his choice of players to make up for it. You were willing to give him what amounted to his choice of players and his choice of position in the draft.
And he didn't whine about his position like you did.
I'm glad it worked out, but it was funny to see how well you treated my replacement because you actually began to understand that the way you behaved was having a negative effect on the health of your league.
You were treated the same as any other player in the league... but then YOU QUIT.
There was maybe a couple of days between when I chose to sign up and when the draft started. You're saying it was an emergency for the league and then that saying I had enough time to reconsider my participation. That's not really true. I had to work that day, and came home and checked to see if my brother had finished with the list. The plan was to make the picks and then manage the league together and then transition out the next year and let him run the team. Then I find out he was in the hospital after making a couple of calls...
The draft had already started when I signed onto FFZ, and by that time I knew I didn't have a list of players to actually choose from.
Where was there time for reflection and consideration anywhere in it?
Others have left and had to have their team autodrafted.
Again, this isn't true. People have left and been autodrafted before.
You're right. I should never have made the commitment to play. Then I wouldn't have screwed you guys over. The reason you were short wasn't because of me, but because of you.
Do you treat any other former player this way? No. People quit all the time. I'm the only one who gets smeared for years and kicked out of all the leagues. One rule for me, one for everyone else. It's nice to finally get this out in the open.
Have I quit on a football league ever?
So you think it's ok to smear a player on Apolyton for something that happened on FFZ? Haven't you whined about people carrying over their poly dealings with you to other sites?
If you believed that you wouldn't have to state it. Me, I got nothing to lose here. Everyone's already decided that I'm the one to blame for what transpired. Fact is, I'm not the only one who's quit, there have been others who have done similar things and no one cares.
And there is a reason everyone has decided that you the one to blame for what transpired... because you are to blame.
And one more time... You are the ONLY PLAYER who has ever quit in the middle of a FFZ draft. You can keep trying to say others did, but they didn't.
Once again, a proven liar and quitter.
No matter how many lies and posts you make, that doesn't change.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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