I mean Hell, Dan... the coach of the year award is NAMED the Bear Bryant Award!
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Originally posted by Ming View PostYeah, Happy Valley is a bad location... but it can offer an education. And while there are other places to go for the warm Florida lifestyle, Cincy can't offer that, or a top education. Cincy is recruiting with one hand tied behind it's back... no tradition, no top education, no lifestyle, limited facilities, and a school still fighting for respect. ND offers a great tradition, a top education, excellent facilities, and it's own TV network“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostI mean Hell, Dan... the coach of the year award is NAMED the Bear Bryant Award!I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Plus Cincinnati is located in Cincinnati. Definite detriment.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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And just how long does it take to make your "own" tradition. You're saying that he should pass up the job he has already dreamed about in the HOPE that someday, if he really works hard, get's some luck, and can overcome the problems with recruiting in Cincy, so that he might build a great tradition. And on the other hand, he can take his dream job, have instant better facilities, a better recruiting base, money he deserves, and a chance to be one of the greatest coaches of all time. Hmmm... doesn't seem like much of a choice to me.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Originally posted by DanS View PostIf Leahy had coached so many years, it would have been named the Frank Leahy award. And it's not even a close comparison.
You are so incredibly delusional.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Ming View PostAnd just how long does it take to make your "own" tradition. You're saying that he should pass up the job he has already dreamed about in the HOPE that someday, if he really works hard, get's some luck, and can overcome the problems with recruiting in Cincy, so that he might build a great tradition. And on the other hand, he can take his dream job, have instant better facilities, a better recruiting base, money he deserves, and a chance to be one of the greatest coaches of all time. Hmmm... doesn't seem like much of a choice to me.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostHe already has "overcome the problems". Florida State and Penn State weren't built in a day.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Ming, what I'm saying is look at the example of Boise State. Chris Petersen has gotten many offers, but is willing to stay put (and has said so), and build what looks to be an incredibly successful program. His predessor, Dan Hawkins, was also very successful at Boise. Hawkins is 4th in total wins in a coach's first 5 seasons. He left for the greener pastures of Colorado, and look where he is now. Bet he wishes he stayed at Boise. And Hawkins replaced Dick Kotter, who moved 'up' to Arizona State and is now an offensive coordinator for Jacksonville Jaguars.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostMing, what I'm saying is look at the example of Boise State. Chris Petersen has gotten many offers, but is willing to stay put (and has said so), and build what looks to be an incredibly successful program. His predessor, Dan Hawkins, was also very successful at Boise. Hawkins is 4th in total wins in a coach's first 5 seasons. He left for the greener pastures of Colorado, and look where he is now. Bet he wishes he stayed at Boise. And Hawkins replaced Dick Kotter, who moved 'up' to Arizona State and is now an offensive coordinator for Jacksonville Jaguars. Though Kotter's predessor, Houston Nutt, has had success (one can argue Petersen has had more).
Sure, they have built successful programs, I'm not saying that they can't. And some coaches move from smaller programs to bigger programs and fail, and others do so and succeed.
But no coach (unless he's a moron) thinks he's going to fail. Here is a guy who has been offered his dream job, and you really can't compare being successful at ND vs being successful at Cincy. And ND has ALL the advantages over Cincy... You seem to make it sound like it's a guarantee that if he stays, he will establish one of those incredibly successful programs. Sure, he might, and he's off to a good start.
But he could do the same at ND, a place HE REALLY WANTS TO COACH.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Wait a second, Ming. All those advantages were debunked by these jokers pages ago.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Um, preseason rankings being what they are, if Notre Dame went undefeated this year there would be a VERY good chance that they'd finish #3 behind Alabama and Texas (who were top 5 going into the season). Same place Cincy is.
And I think Chris Petersen is smart enough to realize he has a great thing where he is. Job security for life and the chance to build an amazingly successful long term program. He hasn't bit because he's seen what has happened to Hawkins, Rich Rodriguez (though Petersen was rumored to have been asked about the job by Michigan), etc.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostUm, preseason rankings being what they are, if Notre Dame went undefeated this year there would be a VERY good chance that they'd finish #3 behind Alabama and Texas (who were top 5 going into the season). Same place Cincy is.
And I think Chris Petersen is smart enough to realize he has a great thing where he is. Job security for life and the chance to build an amazingly successful long term program. He hasn't bit because he's seen what has happened to Hawkins, Rich Rodriguez (though Petersen was rumored to have been asked about the job by Michigan), etc.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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