FF09 IDP League Draft

[snoopy369]

The funny thing is that Fantasy Points Filter for IDPs seems to be a better pick than the rank filters (either one) for offensive players. Perhaps it's just that D players are a bit more consistent? I'd certainly be happy with any of those folk, and doubt highly they'll fall back to me.

[-Jrabbit]

Yahoo's IDP rankings have always been stunningly stupid, to the point of apparent randomness. Seems like the default ranking is always Mike Vrabel, followed by a list of mostly idiots and unknowns... The Actual filter is similarly wacko. That's why we use Fantasy Points, which gives 2008 performance via our scoring system (including return yds).

The only other option would be agreeing on a 3rd party website's rankings, which might be better in some ways but would clearly be more hassle.

[snoopy369]

Umm, JR, I was saying that the 'by fantasy points' was actually really good...

[-Jrabbit]

...and I was agreeing, probably with unnecessary detail.
With Ben being a first-timer, I wanted to be specific.

[Ben Kenobi]

Appreciated Jack, but I think I'll do ok. Thank you.

[snoopy369]

1.1 SlowwHand - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN
1.2 EPW - Maurice Jones-Drew-RB-JAX
1.3 duke o' york - Michael Turner RB ATL (BAPAY)
1.4 Guynemer - Matt Forte RB CHI (list)
1.5 -Jrabbit - Steven Jackson RB STL
1.6 Deity Dude - Tom Brady QB NE
1.7 spaced cowboy - DeAngelo Williams RB CAR (BAPAY)
1.8 snoopy369 - Chris Johnson RB TEN (instructions)
1.9 Zopperoni - Drew Brees QB NO
1.10 Berzerker - Peyton Manning QB IND
1.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Steve Slaton RB HOU
1.12 Ben Kenobi - LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD
1.13 Jaguar - Frank Gore RB SF
1.14 Tuberski -Clinton Portis RB WAS

2.14 Tuberski - Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI
2.13 Jaguar - Brandon Jacobs RB NYG
2.12 Ben Kenobi - Philip Rivers QB SD
2.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Brian Westbrook RB PHI
2.10 Berzerker - Randy Moss WR NE
2.9 Zopperoni - Andre Johnson WR HOU
2.8 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers QB GB
2.7 spaced cowboy - Marion Barber - RB DAL
2.6 Deity Dude - Kevin Smith - RB DET
2.5 Jrabbit - Calvin Johnson WR DET
2.4 Guynemer - Greg Jennings WR GB
2.3 duke o' york - Steve Smith WR CAR (BAPAY -- fixed)
2.2 EPW -Reggie Wayne WR Ind
2.1 SlowwHand - Pierre Thomas RB NO

3.1 Slowwhand - Roddy White WR ATL
3.2 EPW -Ronnie Brown RB Mia
3.3 Duke o' York - Marshawn Lynch RB BUF (BAPAY)
3.4 Guynemer - Thomas Jones RB NYJ
3.5 Jrabbit - Ryan Grant RB GB
3.6 Deity Dude - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
3.7 spaced cowboy - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
3.8 snoopy369 - Knowshon Moreno - RB - DEN
3.9 Zopperoni - Darren McFadden RB OAK
3.10 Berzerker - Anquan Boldin WR AZ
3.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker WR NE
3.12 Ben Kenobi - Antonio Gates TE SD
3.13 Jaguar - Donovan McNabb QB PHI
3.14 Tuberski - Larry Johnson RB KC

4.14 Tuberski - Roy Williams WR DAL
4.13 Jaguar - Julius Jones RB SEA
4.12 Ben Kenobi - Marques Colston WR NO
4.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Kurt Warner QB ARI
4.10 Berzerker - Jason Witten TE DAL
4.09 Zopperoni - Derrick Ward RB TB
4.08 Snoopy369 - Terrell Owens WR BUF
4.7 spaced cowboy - Chad Ochocinco WR CIN
4.6 Deity Dude - Joseph Addai - RB - Indy
4.5 Jrabbit - Jay Cutler QB CHI
4.4 Guynemer - Antonio Bryant WR TB
4.3 duke o' york - Matt Cassel QB KC (BAPAY)
4.2 EPW - Matt Schaub QB HOU (per instructions)
4.1 SlowwHand - Carson Palmer QB CIN

5.1 Slowwhand - T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR SEA
5.2 EPW - Dwayne Bowe WR KC (per instructions)
5.3 Duke o' York - Tony Gonzalez TE ATL (BAPAY)
5.4 Guynemer - Matt Ryan QB ATL
5.5 Jrabbit - Brandon Marshall WR DEN
5.6 Deity Dude - Donald Driver WR GB (BAPAY CHANGE)
5.7 spaced cowboy - Chris Wells RB ARI (from PM list)
5.8 snoopy369 - Jonathan Stewart RB CAR
5.9 Zopperoni - Braylon Edwards WR CLE
5.10 Berzerker - Leon Washington RB NYJ (bapay change)
5.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Anthony Gonzalez WR IND
5.12 Ben Kenobi - Hines Ward - WR PIT
5.13 Jaguar - Santana Moss WR WAS
5.14 Tuberski - Eli Manning QB NYG

6.14 Tuberski - Dallas Clark TE IND
6.13 Jaguar - Santonio Holmes WR PIT
6.12 Ben Kenobi - Vincent Jackson WR SD
6.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Eddie Royal WR DEN
6.10 Berzerker - Felix Jones RB DAL
6.09 Zopperoni - Ray Rice RB BAL
6.08 Snoopy369 - Jerricho Cotchery WR NYJ
6.7 spaced cowboy - Lance Moore WR NO (BAPAY)
6.6 Deity Dude - Bernard Berrian WR MIN (BAPAY)
6.5 Jrabbit - Greg Olsen TE CHI
6.4 Guynemer - Derrick Mason WR BAL
6.3 duke o' york - Kevin Walter WR HOU (BAPAY)
6.2 EPW - Owen Daniels TE Hou
6.1 SlowwHand - Chris Cooley TE WAS

7.1 SlowwHand - Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT
7.2 EPW - LenDale White RB TEN
7.3 duke o' york - Willie Parker RB PIT (smart Bapay)
7.4 Guynemer - Darren Sproles RB SD
7.5 Jrabbit - Josh Wilson DB SEA
7.6 Deity Dude - Visanthe Shiancoe TE MIN (BAPAY)
7.7 spaced cowboy - Zach Miller TE OAK
7.8 snoopy369 - Steve Breaston WR ARI (PM)
7.9 Zopperoni - DeSean Jackson WR PHI
7.10 Berzerker - Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG
7.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Cedric Benson RB CIN
7.12 Ben Kenobi - Jamal Lewis RB CLE
7.13 Jaguar - Patrick Willis LB SF
7.14 Tuberski - Laveranues Coles WR CIN

8.14 Tuberski - LeSean McCoy RB PHI
8.13 Jaguar - Jon Beason LB CAR
8.12 Ben Kenobi - Demarcus Ware LB DAL
8.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Barrett Ruud LB TB
8.10 Berzerker - Jerious Norwood RB ATL
8.09 Zopperoni - Donald Brown RB IND
8.08 Snoopy369 - James Harrison LB PIT
8.07 Spaced Cowboy - D'Qwell Jackson LB CLE
8.06 Deity Dude -
8.05 Jrabbit -
8.04 Guynemer -
8.03 Duke o'York -
8.02 EPW -
8.01 Slowwhand -

[snoopy369]

Guys - Spaced, Deity Dude in particular - I think you should do one of two things.

Either send a list for EVERY SINGLE PICK a day in advance; or post that you want us to BAPAY you immediately for every pick. You've both been BAPAYed multiple times now, and it basically kills a whole day for us. If you only check in at certain times, let us know what those times are, and if you come up not inside that time frame we'll BAPAY you directly and you can adjust it later.

Or, SEND A LIST. Or even generic instructions, like 'Give me a good defender'. I'm more than happy to do that for you...

[Zopperoni]

When I was commish, I let a player miss the clock twice. After the second time, the player's clock would be halved every time he missed the clock.

Maybe it's something we should enforce. We still have 14.5 rounds to go and the process has been rather arduous at times.

[snoopy369]

I'd be more than happy to just call a 0 clock for both of them, but I think it's fair to let them have their say first; and if it's a timing issue, then have a 0 clock in the times that don't work, and let them pick during times when they can. The real problem is them being so close together; if it were slightly more separated, they'd end up picking at different times each day. They end up picking at this time (mid-day) because the other 6 people on whichever side manage to get their picks through the 16 hour window.

[-Jrabbit]

I agree, we need to do something. Let DD's clock run for now.

I'll be out until about 9pm. Picks sent to snoopy and BenK.

[snoopy369]

DD's BAPAY, at 7:30 CDT/5:30 PDT/12:30 GMT is Gibril Wilson DB MIA (from JR's post on the previous page).

[Ben Kenobi]

I agree with putting them on a zero clock. They still have 24 hours to adjust their BAPAY. This way we can have the draft finished by the end of the month. We have 15 days, including today to get through 14 and a half rounds, before the start of the season. If DD+Spaced take up 8 hours, that leaves 16 hours for the remaining 12 picks.

[SlowwHand]

nm, again.

[Jaguar]

8.09 Zopperoni - Donald Brown RB IND

[Ben Kenobi]

1.1 SlowwHand - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN
1.2 EPW - Maurice Jones-Drew-RB-JAX
1.3 duke o' york - Michael Turner RB ATL (BAPAY)
1.4 Guynemer - Matt Forte RB CHI (list)
1.5 -Jrabbit - Steven Jackson RB STL
1.6 Deity Dude - Tom Brady QB NE
1.7 spaced cowboy - DeAngelo Williams RB CAR (BAPAY)
1.8 snoopy369 - Chris Johnson RB TEN (instructions)
1.9 Zopperoni - Drew Brees QB NO
1.10 Berzerker - Peyton Manning QB IND
1.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Steve Slaton RB HOU
1.12 Ben Kenobi - LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD
1.13 Jaguar - Frank Gore RB SF
1.14 Tuberski -Clinton Portis RB WAS

2.14 Tuberski - Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI
2.13 Jaguar - Brandon Jacobs RB NYG
2.12 Ben Kenobi - Philip Rivers QB SD
2.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Brian Westbrook RB PHI
2.10 Berzerker - Randy Moss WR NE
2.9 Zopperoni - Andre Johnson WR HOU
2.8 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers QB GB
2.7 spaced cowboy - Marion Barber - RB DAL
2.6 Deity Dude - Kevin Smith - RB DET
2.5 Jrabbit - Calvin Johnson WR DET
2.4 Guynemer - Greg Jennings WR GB
2.3 duke o' york - Steve Smith WR CAR (BAPAY -- fixed)
2.2 EPW -Reggie Wayne WR Ind
2.1 SlowwHand - Pierre Thomas RB NO

3.1 Slowwhand - Roddy White WR ATL
3.2 EPW -Ronnie Brown RB Mia
3.3 Duke o' York - Marshawn Lynch RB BUF (BAPAY)
3.4 Guynemer - Thomas Jones RB NYJ
3.5 Jrabbit - Ryan Grant RB GB
3.6 Deity Dude - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
3.7 spaced cowboy - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
3.8 snoopy369 - Knowshon Moreno - RB - DEN
3.9 Zopperoni - Darren McFadden RB OAK
3.10 Berzerker - Anquan Boldin WR AZ
3.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker WR NE
3.12 Ben Kenobi - Antonio Gates TE SD
3.13 Jaguar - Donovan McNabb QB PHI
3.14 Tuberski - Larry Johnson RB KC

4.14 Tuberski - Roy Williams WR DAL
4.13 Jaguar - Julius Jones RB SEA
4.12 Ben Kenobi - Marques Colston WR NO
4.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Kurt Warner QB ARI
4.10 Berzerker - Jason Witten TE DAL
4.09 Zopperoni - Derrick Ward RB TB
4.08 Snoopy369 - Terrell Owens WR BUF
4.7 spaced cowboy - Chad Ochocinco WR CIN
4.6 Deity Dude - Joseph Addai - RB - Indy
4.5 Jrabbit - Jay Cutler QB CHI
4.4 Guynemer - Antonio Bryant WR TB
4.3 duke o' york - Matt Cassel QB KC (BAPAY)
4.2 EPW - Matt Schaub QB HOU (per instructions)
4.1 SlowwHand - Carson Palmer QB CIN

5.1 Slowwhand - T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR SEA
5.2 EPW - Dwayne Bowe WR KC (per instructions)
5.3 Duke o' York - Tony Gonzalez TE ATL (BAPAY)
5.4 Guynemer - Matt Ryan QB ATL
5.5 Jrabbit - Brandon Marshall WR DEN
5.6 Deity Dude - Donald Driver WR GB (BAPAY CHANGE)
5.7 spaced cowboy - Chris Wells RB ARI (from PM list)
5.8 snoopy369 - Jonathan Stewart RB CAR
5.9 Zopperoni - Braylon Edwards WR CLE
5.10 Berzerker - Leon Washington RB NYJ (bapay change)
5.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Anthony Gonzalez WR IND
5.12 Ben Kenobi - Hines Ward - WR PIT
5.13 Jaguar - Santana Moss WR WAS
5.14 Tuberski - Eli Manning QB NYG

6.14 Tuberski - Dallas Clark TE IND
6.13 Jaguar - Santonio Holmes WR PIT
6.12 Ben Kenobi - Vincent Jackson WR SD
6.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Eddie Royal WR DEN
6.10 Berzerker - Felix Jones RB DAL
6.09 Zopperoni - Ray Rice RB BAL
6.08 Snoopy369 - Jerricho Cotchery WR NYJ
6.7 spaced cowboy - Lance Moore WR NO (BAPAY)
6.6 Deity Dude - Bernard Berrian WR MIN (BAPAY)
6.5 Jrabbit - Greg Olsen TE CHI
6.4 Guynemer - Derrick Mason WR BAL
6.3 duke o' york - Kevin Walter WR HOU (BAPAY)
6.2 EPW - Owen Daniels TE Hou
6.1 SlowwHand - Chris Cooley TE WAS

7.1 SlowwHand - Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT
7.2 EPW - LenDale White RB TEN
7.3 duke o' york - Willie Parker RB PIT (smart Bapay)
7.4 Guynemer - Darren Sproles RB SD
7.5 Jrabbit - Josh Wilson DB SEA
7.6 Deity Dude - Visanthe Shiancoe TE MIN (BAPAY)
7.7 spaced cowboy - Zach Miller TE OAK
7.8 snoopy369 - Steve Breaston WR ARI (PM)
7.9 Zopperoni - DeSean Jackson WR PHI
7.10 Berzerker - Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG
7.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Cedric Benson RB CIN
7.12 Ben Kenobi - Jamal Lewis RB CLE
7.13 Jaguar - Patrick Willis LB SF
7.14 Tuberski - Laveranues Coles WR CIN

8.14 Tuberski - LeSean McCoy RB PHI
8.13 Jaguar - Jon Beason LB CAR
8.12 Ben Kenobi - Demarcus Ware LB DAL
8.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Barrett Ruud LB TB
8.10 Berzerker - Jerious Norwood RB ATL
8.09 Zopperoni - Donald Brown RB IND
8.08 Snoopy369 - James Harrison LB PIT
8.07 Spaced Cowboy - D'Qwell Jackson LB CLE
8.06 Deity Dude - Gibril Wilson DB MIA (BAPAY)
8.05 Jrabbit -
8.04 Guynemer -
8.03 Duke o'York -
8.02 EPW -
8.01 Slowwhand -