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  • #76
    Yeah, but Denver is falling apart as well. San Diego only needs to match their mediocrity +1 and win in Week 17. Not a tall order... though they do have a real talent for losing the close ones.

    Still waiting for Ben to tell us the many ways in which fate and officials conspired to screw his Chargers out of a richly deserved win...
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
      Chargers play:

      Oakland home
      Atlanta home
      KC away
      Tampa away
      Denver home

      If the spreads go the way they should the Chargers go 5-0.
      Do you really believe a hoping-to-be-.500 team, traveling 3000 miles, will be favored in Tampa?
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      • #78
        I don't think they will be favored over Atlanta either.

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        • #79
          Oh, God. I have to hope Washington wins next wekk. I don't know if I cant take that or not.

          NO! I can cheer for the Giants untill playoffs. A win against Washington helps in Wild Card!
          GO GIANTS!
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          • #80
            Yeah, but Denver is falling apart as well. San Diego only needs to match their mediocrity +1 and win in Week 17. Not a tall order... though they do have a real talent for losing the close ones.
            Put it this way, there isn't a team out there in the whole league that the Chargers cannot beat, except maybe the Giants.
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            • #81
              Do you really believe a hoping-to-be-.500 team, traveling 3000 miles, will be favored in Tampa?
              The Beniverse is an interesting place...
              Losing by 1 to the Steelers? I wouldn't bet against them in any game they play the rest of the way out.

              Are you willing to bet that the Buccaneers are better then the Steelers? Or the Colts?

              I don't think so, but we shall see. They are much better then their record shows.

              Chargers should be 7-4 right now, with a +25 point advantage, which is higher then the Redskins and the Cowboys.

              As for the east coast game at Tampa, it's not an early game. They should be fine.
              Last edited by Ben Kenobi; November 24, 2008, 01:45.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                Losing by 1 to the Steelers? I wouldn't bet against them in any game they play the rest of the way out.

                Are you willing to bet that the Buccaneers are better then the Steelers? Or the Colts?

                I don't think so, but we shall see. They are much better then their record shows.

                Chargers should be 7-4 right now, with a +25 point advantage, which is higher then the Redskins and the Cowboys.

                As for the east coast game at Tampa, it's not an early game. They should be fine.
                Ben, stop changing the topic. We're not predicting game outcomes. To review:
                You said,
                If the spreads go the way they should the Chargers go 5-0.
                I'm not saying they won't win.
                I'm not saying they can't win.

                But the spread will not go their way.

                My only claim is that THE CHARGERS WILL NOT BE FAVORED AGAINST TAMPA. And they won't.
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                • #83
                  My only claim is that THE CHARGERS WILL NOT BE FAVORED AGAINST TAMPA. And they won't.
                  4 games out? If the Chargers start rolling again, then I don't think Tampa will be favoured.

                  They'll be favoured at home against Atlanta, because it's a home game.
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                  • #84
                    Tampa's schedule:

                    11/30/2008 1:00 pm vs. New Orleans Saints FOX
                    12/8/2008 8:30 pm @ Carolina Panthers ESPN
                    12/14/2008 1:00 pm @ Atlanta Falcons FOX
                    12/21/2008 8:15 pm vs. San Diego Chargers NBC

                    4 tough games back to back. They could easily go 0-3, prior to the Chargers game.
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                    • #85
                      Well, duh, they actually play in a tough division! And they're 8-3, with a +77 point differential.

                      And guess what? Even if they fall to 8-6 (they won't), they will still be favorites vs the spread, playing at home vs. the "hopefully" 7-7 Chargers.
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                      • #86
                        And guess what? Even if they fall to 8-6 (they won't), they will still be favorites vs the spread, playing at home vs. the "hopefully" 7-7 Chargers.
                        Why wouldn't they fall to 8-6? Saints are underrated, and I think Tampa is overrated, given that they just got off a game with the worst team in the league.

                        Tampa also lost to DENVER of all teams, and beat KC in OT.

                        I don't see any wins that impress me except for the pasting of Carolina at home.
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                        • #87
                          Stick to the topic. This is about whether the spread will -- as you claimed -- favor the Chargers. The simple matter is that the oddmakers will consistently favor the home team with the better record.

                          This is not a discussion of which team is better. Neither is oddsmaking.

                          Why can't you just admit it when you've made an error or overstated your case? You'd have a lot more credibility around here if you did.
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                          • #88
                            The Saints are most definitely not underrated. I saw them get exposed against Atlanta. If anything, they are overrated.
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                            • #89
                              Tampa Bay will absolutely be favored against SD at home, and will probably abuse them horribly. Atlanta will also be favored against SD, I suspect, and probably will beat them (though Atlanta is up-and-down on the road).
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                              • #90
                                though Atlanta is up-and-down on the road


                                That's putting it mildly .
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