NFL - Are You Ready For Some Football?!! - Week 16

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'll put this here and in the college thread:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3150783

Petrino leaves Falcons for Arkansas job! What a loser! Couldn't even stick out a season! I may have respected him more if he waited until after the season was over. Hell, by then, the LSU job may have come open again .

[Ming]

Originally posted by snoopy369

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bears-orton&prov=ap&type=lgns

How did this not get posted? JR, you and I get our wish

Orton

I think all Chicago fans got their wish. It's time to see if he can be the future, or just another bad Chicago QB

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Ming


I think all Chicago fans got their wish. It's time to see if he can be the future, or just another bad Chicago QB

Ming, if they will invest in protection for him, I think he will do a very good job for you. Honestly, first chance I got, Rex and Brian would be shipped out and bring in another QB to mirror Orton, just in case

[Theben]

I dunno, Rex looked pretty good the last few games. If the O-line can't defend, all the Chicago QB's will get shipped out- to the locker room for X-rays.

[Donegeal]

Spygate Part II: Revenge is a dish best servered cold

NEW YORK (Ticker) - Apparently, the New England Patriots aren't the only team that uses cameras.

According to a report in Wednesday's Newsday, NFL sources familiar with the situation said that the New York Jets were caught using a video-taping device during a game against the Patriots in Foxborough last season, which resulted in the removal of a Jets' employee.

Gillette Stadium officials noticed the employee recording the game from the mezzanine level between the scoreboard and a "decorative lighthouse in the end zone," according to the report, and asked the employee to stop and leave the area.

The camera was not confiscated by the Patriots or stadium security and the Jets admitted on Tuesday that they did videotape the game and that their employee was confronted.

However, the report states that the Jets said they had permission from the Patriots to film from that location in an attempt to record a second end-zone angle.

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.

New York played at Gillette Stadium twice last campaign, once during the regular season and again in the playoffs. A source familiar with the Patriots' situation told Newsday that the filming occurred during the first game while a source close to the Jets said it happened during the playoffs.

Video taping opposing teams' signals was brought to the public's attention when Jets security allegedly told NFL officials that a Patriots' employee was recording their defensive signals during the New York-New England game in Week One of this season.

After reviewing the evidence, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell fined New England coach Bill Belichick $500,000. The Patriots organization was fined an additional $250,000 and was forced to forfeit a first-round pick in the 2008 NFL draft.

An NFL source told Newsday that the league office is unaware of the of the incident and that the Patriots did not bring up the situation while under investigation.

You wanna know why the Pats didn't bring it up while under investigation? Because this is something EVERYBODY does! It has always been an unwritten rule that you just don't go around blowing the whistle on it. Mangini (or however you spell it) was just bitter with Bilichick (or however you spell that one too) and called him on it.

If you ask me, Manginii is an even bigger asshat than Billachick.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Aside from the fact that they did it AFTER the league issued a warning.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
Ming, if they will invest in protection for him, I think he will do a very good job for you. Honestly, first chance I got, Rex and Brian would be shipped out and bring in another QB to mirror Orton, just in case

Any smart Chicago fan would agree that the o-line finally looks their age. What used to be a plus (experience and years working together) is now a negative. They are too old and we know we can't blame all the woes on the QB.

My problems with Rex are his fumbling, his inability to feel the blind side preasure, his lack of knowledge on reading defenses, his poor decision making (which has improved some since his benching). Yeah, he or Brian would have stood a better chance with a real o-line and a the running game that might work if we did have a o-line. But I don't think either one of them is the future of this team.

I would like to see if Orton can be. When we needed him, he won some games running a dumbed down version of the offense. I would like to see what he can do with the full playbook. And yes, he will have the same problems as the others when it comes to lack of protection... but I do want to see if he can make the throws, read the d, make better decisions, and LEAD the team.

[SlowwHand]

I see Grossman as a Drew Bledsoe with less talent.
A lot of the same faults.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Bledsoe was actually good though... so it's a LOT less talent for Grossman .

[Donegeal]

Lets not forget that not only did Orton win 10 games as a rookie starter, he was a GREAT college QB in the exact mold as Brees (he really is just a younger version of him). Orton was a legit hiesman hopeful until the Badgers played Prudue and put him on his back.

Orton doesn't need a dumbed down version of the playbook. He ran a pro-style offense in college.

In every preseason, he has shown a better arm than Grossman and his accuracy has always been there. This past preson he showed marked improvement on descision making and reading D. Orton could be the next Brees.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Aside from the fact that they did it AFTER the league issued a warning.

As opposed to when it was just against the rules?

Mangini says:

Q: There is a report in Newsday that a Jets employee was asked to leave Gillette Stadium last season, possibly for videotaping their coaches. Is that an accurate report?

A: "What we do every away game is tape our team from both end zones, whenever it's possible. We always ask for permission to do that. Usually it's granted, provided there is a physical space to do that, it's to get the same angle you get in practice. Anybody that asks us to do it, we extend the same courtesy. It's pretty common, one way or the other, depending on how teams like to look at their game tape. That's really what it was."

I'm not sure how Mangini figures he has the authority to ignore league rules just by asking permission from another team...or that he has the authority to grant that permission to others. I eagerly await an investigation by the league that, given Mangini's eagerness to assist in such things, should result in a list of all teams that have asked for or granted such permission. If Goodell wants to be consistent, the first round should last about five picks.

[Lord Avalon]

Longtime Falcons assistant Thomas to lead team to season's end.

Secondary coach leapfrogs coordinators.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The secondary coach? Of the Falcons? Since 2002? They really do want that #1 pick, don't they?

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I see Grossman as a Drew Bledsoe with less talent.
A lot of the same faults.

Actually, I see Rex as a Bledsoe with a lot less brains. Bledsoe was a pretty smart QB, even if he had blind side issues. Rex has a lot of talent, that is why they stuck with him this far... he just doesn't (yet) have the brains to use it.

Orton

[Lord Avalon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
The secondary coach? Of the Falcons? Since 2002? They really do want that #1 pick, don't they?

# 1? I think Miami's got that pretty much locked up.

FWIW, NYJ, St Louis and SF are tied with Atlanta with 3 wins.