AHL- Apolyton Hockey League 07/08: IV The Rookie Menace

[snoopy369]

I figure that Aucoin is my emergency plus-minus guy and Whitney gets me plenty of scoring, so I can use whomever I need for whichever ( Or just use them both as they often don't play on the same nights... no penalty to more skater games after all.)

Asher, have you ever played in a league with stats on a per game basis exclusively (with a min games played of course)? (P/G, A/G, PPG/G, PPA/G, etc.) Would certainly be an interesting contrast to the current system. I would think it would reward 'good drafters' more than this system (as in this system if you have 4 or 5 bad guys on your team you can just do like Flubber and pick up new guys constantly to replace them, and the extra skater games helps counteract the fact that you're regularly starting waiver wire guys).

[Flubber]

Originally posted by snoopy369


Asher, have you ever played in a league with stats on a per game basis exclusively (with a min games played of course)? (P/G, A/G, PPG/G, PPA/G, etc.) Would certainly be an interesting contrast to the current system. I would think it would reward 'good drafters' more than this system (as in this system if you have 4 or 5 bad guys on your team you can just do like Flubber and pick up new guys constantly to replace them, and the extra skater games helps counteract the fact that you're regularly starting waiver wire guys).

I had never really intended to be churning as much as I am . It was the Emery injury with the Gerber pickup that got me started but then the failure of my Bobby Ryan flyer, Bertuzzi fizzling (both were picked because of the London games and with the thought they might be dropped) . .. .and Jordan Staal failing (and not being listed on the wing). Bottom line is that I had 4 picks that I was not satisfied with.

Through it all I have been true to my top 10 picks ( well I traded Kolzig) and now have a static lineup of 12 that I am ok with.

I won't promise that I won't continue my pattern. I actually enjoy trying to come up with a neat "hunch". BUt I have been researching more to try to pick some players I can stick with-- ITs tough though since I often find that a player I like plays most of their games on the same night as the two players ahead of them on the depth chart. Then not only do you miss out on skater games but you get to kick your own ass every time your "benched " player has a big night

[snoopy369]

Oh, I don't complain about it; I consider it a legitimate tactic in a daily league I'm just curious how it would impact things to make it count differently. In fact, having points be per game would cause you to have more interesting daily choices; you could still have people like you picking up people and dropping them constantly, just working for best matchups (like in the NFL, defenses are often used that way).

[Flubber]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Oh, I don't complain about it; I consider it a legitimate tactic in a daily league

I obviously consider it completely legitimate and have been surprised a little that more people don't do it a bit more. It does open yourself up for comments since somewhere in the process you will drop someone who excells post-drop.

My problem was and remains at RW. If I could get two right-wingers that I believed in, I think that I would be happier to sit

Originally posted by snoopy369
I'm just curious how it would impact things to make it count differently. In fact, having points be per game would cause you to have more interesting daily choices; you could still have people like you picking up people and dropping them constantly, just working for best matchups (like in the NFL, defenses are often used that way).

It actually would be interesting. You might actually choose to sit even your best players if they were facing the stifling defensive team with the hot goalies

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Flubber

My problem was and remains at RW. If I could get two right-wingers that I believed in, I think that I would be happier to sit

There seems to be a dearth of good RW in general. I don't think there's even enough solid RW for everyone to have two they're totally happy with, let alone an extra on the bench.

[Asher]

Yeah, RW is shallow...C is very, very deep.

I looked at dropping Knuble, but there's no one better to replace him...

[Asher]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I figure that Aucoin is my emergency plus-minus guy and Whitney gets me plenty of scoring, so I can use whomever I need for whichever ( Or just use them both as they often don't play on the same nights... no penalty to more skater games after all.)

Asher, have you ever played in a league with stats on a per game basis exclusively (with a min games played of course)? (P/G, A/G, PPG/G, PPA/G, etc.) Would certainly be an interesting contrast to the current system. I would think it would reward 'good drafters' more than this system (as in this system if you have 4 or 5 bad guys on your team you can just do like Flubber and pick up new guys constantly to replace them, and the extra skater games helps counteract the fact that you're regularly starting waiver wire guys).

I'm in several other Yahoo leagues with different settings.

One is a rotisserie league with a max of 82 games per position. This emphasizes productivity per game, considering we have 4 bench players you need to be more strategic in who you play, and when.

Another is a head to head league, with a maximum of 20 moves for the entire season.

Both are very interesting and different types of leagues...I like them all.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kontiki


There seems to be a dearth of good RW in general. I don't think there's even enough solid RW for everyone to have two they're totally happy with, let alone an extra on the bench.

It was something I sort-of knew but never having taken part in a draft like this before, I don't think I really fully appreciated

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher
Yeah, RW is shallow...C is very, very deep.

The depth of centre becomes obvious when I have space to pick one up and its like which guy with 10 points already do I want?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher
Yeah, RW is shallow...C is very, very deep.

I looked at dropping Knuble, but there's no one better to replace him...

My recent drops and adds should give you a short-list-- Its the one position I have been rolling pretty regularly

Kovalev , Svatos, Parrish and Sjostrom head the goals list but overall its a pretty undistiguished crew

[Flubber]

ZUBOOOOOV !!!!

It may be a stattracker mistake but he is currently showing with a PPG and 2 assists and plus 2-- I hope its not a mistake

It would be unexpectedly large production from a d-man on a single night

[notyoueither]

I don't think it's a mistake. He, and Dallas, had a hell of a 3rd period.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I don't think it's a mistake. He, and Dallas, had a hell of a 3rd period.

But the Hawks won it in the end with 2 goals from Williams

[notyoueither]

Yes. (I have him in another league). Unfortunately, I also have Khabi over there.

[notyoueither]

In other news, the new uniforms are not welcomed with wild joy from coast to coast...

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Jones/2007/10/28/4612259-sun.html

Threads of doubt

The jury's still out on the Edmonton Oilers new uniforms

O.K. Enough already. It's time to take the gloves off and deal with the No. 1 sports controversy in Edmonton.

Danny Maciocia's Gotta Go?

Hell no. Nothing left to say there that hasn't been said.

No, I'm talking about the total travesty of the Edmonton Oilers "pyjamas".

The folly and the farce of forcing them to wear "practice jerseys" in games.

Those especially embarrassing white away uniforms with the shirt tails it looks like they forgot to tuck in, that crappy costume they were wearing on Hockey Night In Canada out of Los Angeles last night.

The Oilers have been wearing these daffy duds long enough most of the fans I've talked to have only one question:

"How do we get our stripe back?"

O.K. Two questions.

"How do we lose that practice uniform piping on the front, too?"

The fans clearly haven't fallen in love with the Oilers new uniforms, home or away.

WORST IN THE LEAGUE

But the away whites may just be the worst in the league. In fact, they have been declared exactly that on sports desk highlight shows around the league already this year.

Heck, their own president Cal Nichols admits he can't stand looking at the damn things.

"They look, uh, a little plain," he chose his words carefully.

"I have to be careful here. Reebok paid a lot of money," he said of the project bringing the new uniforms to teams around the league and the obvious NHL memo to everybody in the game that they all must love them.

I told Nichols I was writing about the awful new Oilers silks.

"I think that would be a good article to write," he said. "But just put me down for saying I liked our old uniforms. I don't want to sound like an old stick-in-the-mud who can't go contemporary."

There have been other reviews.

"Ice Capades awful!"

"What was Edmonton thinking?

"I like the traditional horizontal stripes at the bottom of the old jersey."

"Why mess with tradition?"

"Wow. I feel like a Minnesota fan."

"Those are awful. Edmonton fans deserve better."

"Butt ugly. It looks like someone who hates the Oilers designed this one."

"The jersey is a little disappointing considering that Todd McFarlane, creator of Spawn, is a part owner. You'd think he'd have a say in the final design."

"Vancouver's looks better than those."

Those are just a few of the comments you can find by going to Google and typing in "Oilers" and "uniforms".

With the new Reeboks, everybody in the league has a new design, but the Montreal Canadiens look like the Montreal Canadiens, the Chicago Blackhawks look like the Chicago Blackhawks, theDetroit Red Wings look like the Detroit Red Wings ...

The Edmonton Oilers, a team of tradition which has won five Stanley Cup, just don't look like the Edmonton Oilers.

"I can't disagree," said Nichols.

WHO TO BLAME

Don't blame Reebok. Blame the Oilers. Blame CEO Patrick LaForge.

"We wanted change. A lot of things motivated us to look at change. We have a new locker room. A new team. We saw it as rejuvenation. A breath of fresh air," said LaForge.

"It was meant to be a sort of a Baltimore Ravens look," he said.

The Oilers have have their own identifiable look familiar to the entire world because Wayne Gretzky used to wear that uniform, and now they want to look like the Baltimore Ravens instead?

"A full black body from the ankles to the top, above the ankles and below the shoulders. A solid blue color," said LaForge.

So how do you get your stripe back?

"We can do it," says LaForge. "But not until 2009-2010."

Good thing they probably won't win a Stanley Cup until then.