NFL - Are you ready for some Football - Week 5

[SlowwHand]

Pats suck.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
One really cant equate this arguement, Nancy Kerrigan had a similiar situation years ago, doesn't bode well!! Tanya Harding was behind it, and Nancy kerrigan was doing well, she most certainly didnt seserve being clubbed in the knee

This aint ice skating, this is football. You know, a game where people routinely hit each other? Within the rules? And where a late hit is worth a 15 yard penalty, not jail time?

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
If football is nicer now, if we dont tolerate deliberate injury endangering hits, should we tolerate what the Pats are doing?

Football IS nicer now (nicer, not softer), but what NE is doing is within the rules of the game. Deliberately trying to hurt someone is not. Trying to compare the two makes you look kinda stupid.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi

Even if they were running up the score, it's something that has been done much worse by many others in the past (often times by the same people who are complaining about it now) and nobody has treated it like a scandal that was going to shake the league to its roots.

I doubt that, as its not Gibbs or any players who are complaining, its fans and columnists.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Some of Gibbs's players complained. Some other players in the league have complained. Gibbs did not, nor did I expect him to. Many of the sock puppets who used to play complained. The fans will follow where they're led, for the most part.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Donegeal


Football IS nicer now (nicer, not softer), but what NE is doing is within the rules of the game. Deliberately trying to hurt someone is not. Trying to compare the two makes you look kinda stupid.

You dont have to deliberately try to hurt someone, IIUC. You just hit a little harder than is necessary, just to MAKE SURE you get the guy down.

and its not my idea in particular, BTW.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/29/AR2007102902167.html

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Pats suck.

I couldnt help but think of our beloved Waterboy..water sucks, it really,really sucks!!

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
Some of Gibbs's players complained. Some other players in the league have complained. Gibbs did not, nor did I expect him to. Many of the sock puppets who used to play complained. The fans will follow where they're led, for the most part.

If any current Redskins complained, it somehow missed the WaPo articles Ive been reading all week - I dont watch the sports shows on TV, so I wouldnt know. The main explayers Ive heard quoted didnt complain.

If the fans have been led, its been by the sportswriters, though I think its largely been spontaneous.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


This aint ice skating, this is football. You know, a game where people routinely hit each other? Within the rules? And where a late hit is worth a 15 yard penalty, not jail time?

A late hit and a deliberate "Sending a message for running the clock up" hit are two very different subjects...

I was referencing the ice skating, because Tonya decided to help send a message, I am better and I will hurt you to show the world I am a better skater since you wont be able to perform as well...

I never said Tom Brady should be protected, i am merely stating that by intentionally trying to hurt or mame him is wrong, period.

By the way, WTF is up with all the ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????



I was merely commenting on your post, you posted it and I commented on it

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
If any current Redskins complained, it somehow missed the WaPo articles Ive been reading all week - I dont watch the sports shows on TV, so I wouldnt know. The main explayers Ive heard quoted didnt complain.

If the fans have been led, its been by the sportswriters, though I think its largely been spontaneous.

Randall Godfrey quote:

"I said something to (Belichick) after the game," Godfrey said to NBCSports.com. "I told him, 'You need to show some respect for the game.' You just don't do that. I don't care how bad it is. You're up 35 points and you're still throwing deep? That's no respect....

"You look at all the great head coaches ... I'm just disappointed," he said. "You gotta show some class, show some respect. Joe Gibbs? We wouldn't have done that. Bill Walsh? You wouldn't see those types of guys doing that stuff. I've never seen nothing like that. Most teams, you get up like that you sit on the ball and try to run the time out. They're up 30-some points and they're throwing deep. That was blatant disrespect. I hope we can see them again, definitely. You don't see Joe Gibbs doing that. You can't even imagine that kind of stuff coming from him. Joe Gibbs.

Of course, the funny part of this is the article that ran on SI later in the week talking about how mad Jerry Glanville was at Gibbs after Gibbs was passing with a 42-17 lead in the 4th quarter...

But yeah, you've missed a lot of former players complaining if you haven't watched the television coverage lately. Including Steve Young, which is pretty funny given some of the things his 49ers teams did.

[b etor]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll


Everyone resist the Moderatorship of Imran "Sith Lord" Siddiqui, in as much as he would try subliminal tactics to view things his way..fight..fight..fight..

darth maul
he looks scared in that picture tho.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi

Of course, the funny part of this is the article that ran on SI later in the week talking about how mad Jerry Glanville was at Gibbs after Gibbs was passing with a 42-17 lead in the 4th quarter...

this was bigger than a 15 point lead, it was at the very end of the game, IIUC, not just "in the 4th quarter" and it was a 4th down conversion, IIUC.

And its not just one game, but has been a pattern.


At some point it gets ridiculous.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Yes, 42-17 is a lead of more than 15 points. I believe the 4th quarter is at the end of the game, correct...10 minutes left isn't exactly the very end, though. What 4th down conversion? You mean for the Pats? So you'd rather they put up an automatic 3 than give the Redskin's D a chance to stop them?

I agree, it's quite ridiculous.

[Grandpa Troll]

Ok, I seem to have some of this "lets not embarrass the other team" concept now

New Orleans should be ostricized for kicking an onside kick after getting a field goal in first quarter, against Jacksonville.

I mean, its early, go ahead, kick the ball off and stop the Jags then score..

Shame, made the Jag's look like a high school team, lets stop embarrassing other teams

/me thinks this whole concept of rigging the game could catch on

[Lord Avalon]

Detroit goes up 13-0. Cutler is in the locker room getting a left leg injury checked out.