Ice Hockey World Cup

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Serb


Blah... like an already signed contract means anything in NHL.

Malkin escaped to NHL like chicken in August 2006 despite he had a contract with his club Metallurg and had to play there up to May 2007.

No, apparently a contract means nothing in Russia. Blame your own labour laws.

Incidently, Russians have said 'screw you' to NHL teams and gone back to Russia while under contract in the NHL. So don't cry to me about your lawless country that has no respect for foreign contracts, or even contracts with foreigners.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Asher
Malkin left your ****hole country to play with real hockey players.

Shut-up already. I don't want to insult Canada in retaliation, because of one Canuck acting like a d!ckhead.

[Asher]

You know I'm right, Serbie. Why do you think your best players turn their back on you?

[Serb]

Originally posted by notyoueither


No, apparently a contract means nothing in Russia. Blame your own labour laws.

Labour laws?

You know what pisses me off? That decision on Malkin's case was made by American court. It's absurd. A relationships between employee (a Russian citizen) and his (again Russian) employer IS NOT the subject of American law. And American court has no power there at all. Malkin not only violated terms of his contract, he also violated the Russian labour law, but since an American judge said "It's ok. We need guys like you in our league" everything is just fine. Right?.
****.

Incidently, Russians have said 'screw you' to NHL teams and gone back to Russia while under contract in the NHL. So don't cry to me about your lawless country that has no respect for foreign contracts, or even contracts with foreigners.

If they terminated their contracts, I bet their clubs will recieve a compensation. Malkin didn't pay a cent to his club.

And I of course support the " 'screw you' to NHL teams" attitude.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Asher
You know I'm right, Serbie. Why do you think your best players turn their back on you?

Watch for your words. I ignore you until you stop insulting my country.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Serb


Labour laws?

You know what pisses me off? That decision on Malkin's case was made by American court. It's absurd. A relationships between employee (a Russian citizen) and his (again Russian) employer IS NOT the subject of American law. And American court has no power there at all. Malkin not only violated terms of his contract, he also violated the Russian labour law, but since an American judge said "It's ok. We need guys like you in our league" everything is just fine. Right?.
****.

That's what the American courts said. They needed something other than the Russian IHF tribunal to go on.

Of course, Russian labour laws made this rather impractical, as Malkin did it right and by the law. Who was going to say otherwise? Certainly nobody other than Russian hockey czars did.

If they terminated their contracts, I bet their clubs will recieve a compensation. Malkin didn't pay a cent to his club.

No, they didn't. There has been no IIHF agreement. The Russian IHF refused to sign it. And why should Malkin have paid a cent? Surely it should be a matter between federations and clubs. A slave should not have to purchase his own freedom, should he?

You poach ours. We poach yours. No payment or compensation. I suppose the Russians will sign when they realise that NHL teams will get the players they really want with zero compensation and all that go back are the international hockey version of backwash.

And I of course support the " 'screw you' to NHL teams" attitude.

I am sure you do.

Wave to Malkin. He's quite good.

[Serb]

Originally posted by notyoueither


That's what the American courts said. They needed something other than the Russian IHF tribunal to go on.

Why? It was a dispute between a Russian player and a Russian club. When you have a dispute with your employer you go to Russian/British/Australian/whatever or Canadian court?

Of course, Russian labour laws made this rather impractical, as Malkin did it right and by the law. Who was going to say otherwise? Certainly nobody other than Russian hockey czars did.

Russian court said the otherwise. And Malkin didn't "did it right and by the law.". He signed a contract and had to stay with his club up to may 2007. Then he just run away.

No, they didn't. There has been no IIHF agreement. The Russian IHF refused to sign it. And why should Malkin have paid a cent?

AFAIK, if an employee do not fulfil the terms of his contract he should pay a fine. Malkin didn't fulfil terms of his contract. He just disappeared without a warning.

Surely it should be a matter between federations and clubs. A slave should not have to purchase his own freedom, should he?

Transfer of players should be a matter between clubs and federations.
Non-fulfillment of contract signed between a Russian employee and Russian employer should be matter of Russian (and nobody's else) court.

Wave to Malkin. He's quite good.

He is a good player. But he betrayed his club and fans. Ironically they've won last championship without him.

[Flubber]

Canad beats Slovakia but really this game and the next three don't mean all that much since one win out of the 4 of them should be sufficient to advance to the quarters. There is an advantage I guess in winning to get an easier opponent but thats not that much of an advantage

MYTISCHI, Russia (CP) - Jonathan Toews hasn't had to say much to get noticed by his Canadian teammates at the IIHF World Hockey Championship.

The 19-year-old student at the University of North Dakota is the only player on the team who doesn't earn a paycheque playing hockey and has been understandably quiet in the locker-room early in the tournament.

But performances like the one he had Wednesday have said more than enough. Toews set up all three goals Canada scored on the power play in a 5-4 win over Slovakia.

"He's unbelievable how he's taken in the pressure," said forward Rick Nash, who had the winning goal against the Slovaks. "He's pretty much the quarterback on the power play. His vision and his puck skills are pretty unbelievable ...
It was Canada's first game since the issue of Shane Doan being named captain of the team was raised in the House of Commons. The controversy didn't seem to have much affect on the team as it passed its first true test at the tournament.

The victory improved Canada's record to 3-0, but that seemed somewhat lost in all the discussion about Doan back at home.

Goaltender Dwayne Roloson, who made 24 saves for the win, says the team has rallied around its captain. He's anxious for the story to go away.

"It's really unfortunate for Canadian hockey and our country," said Roloson.

Doan didn't figure in the scoring but was part of Canada's top line with Nash and Matthew Lombardi and did his part on the power play.

Coach Andy Murray has tried to ease Toews into his first event at this level.

After coming into the tournament pencilled onto the team's top line, Toews has been skating Jordan Staal and Colby Armstrong at even strength and logging most of his minutes on the power play.

Through three games, he's tied for the team lead in points at four with Nash, Jason Chimera and Cory Murphy.

"I'm hesitant with young players to laud them too much because they're in a learning process," said Murray. "But being a good Manitoba boy ... he's a solid person, good player, we're pleased for him.

"He's learning so much by being around the veteran players and the standard that they've set for all our young guys."

Toews's best play on this night set up defenceman Eric Brewer for a goal in the second period that made it 3-1 for Canada. The teenager held onto the puck before sending it between four Slovak defenders and right onto Brewer's stick.

It certainly had his teammates talking.

"He was awesome," said Doan. "He's somebody that can do so much offensively and he's capable of doing more."

Dan Hamhuis, Jamal Mayers and Murphy also scored Wednesday for Canada, which plays Belarus in its first game of the qualifying round on Friday (TSN, 10:15 a.m. ET).

Branko Radivojevic, Marian Hossa, Marek Uram and Miro Satan replied for Slovakia (2-1).

The Slovaks will face the U.S. on Thursday in their first game of the qualifying round and are hoping to be better on the penalty kill.

"We definitely gave them too many power-play opportunities and they used them," said Satan. "Against the U.S., we're definitely going to have to be more disciplined."

Canada twice blew a two-goal lead in the game and found itself tied early in the third period when Satan scored after Roloson had lost the puck behind his own goal.

But Nash got the winning goal at 9:02 when he tipped Murphy's point shot past Slovak goalie Jaroslav Halak. The Columbus Blue Jackets sniper had several near-misses in the game and pumped his fists with excitement after finally scoring.

"Those chances are still coming," said Nash. "I almost beat him a couple times. I was able to get that last tip-in and it was pretty exciting to get the win."

The Canadian players can now look forward to seeing their families, who are scheduled to arrive on Thursday.

Some familiar faces will be a welcome sight as the team moves closer to the must-win games.

"It's a key point in time in the tournament," said Roloson.

If Toews can continue to be a key performer it will be a bonus.

The Winnipeg native made headlines earlier in the year when he scored three times in a semifinal shootout win over the U.S. that helped Canada earn a third consecutive gold medal at the world junior championship.

It was a second for Toews and he can go for a third next winter if he decides to stay in college rather than sign with Chicago Blackhawks.

First he'll continue going for gold at the world championship, where he's been sharing a room with Doan while getting comfortable with his new teammates.

"We had Jonathan and Shane room together for a reason," said Murray. "It wasn't so that Jonathan could help Shane. We felt he's a great example, a great role model.

"What a great opportunity for Jonathan to get on solid foundation with a professional player."

Toews has loved the experience so far, even if he hasn't been saying much at practice or in the dressing room.

He's not normally the kind of guys who stays quiet but these are special circumstances.

"I'm vocal when I'm in the game," said Toews. "That's just the relationship I like to have with my teammates ...

"Now I'm just trying to listen a little more and obviously take it all in from the guys who know quite a bit more than I do."

Notes: Calgary Flames defenceman Dion Phaneuf played his first game for Canada and assisted on Brewer's goal ... The Canadian players wore the team's black third jersey during the game. They will be auctioned off on EBay from May 4 to 14th ... Slovakia entered the tournament ranked sixth in the world while Canada was fourth.

[Asmodean]

Denmark lead Sweden 2 - 0 7 minutes into the first period. It wont last, of course, but still very very unexpected.

And a bit of Schadenfreude is in it too, since the Swedish newspapers have been labelling Denmark a Donald Duck team up to the match

Asmodean

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asmodean


Denmark lead Sweden 2 - 0 7 minutes into the first period. It wont last, of course, but still very very unexpected.

And a bit of Schadenfreude is in it too, since the Swedish newspapers have been labelling Denmark a Donald Duck team up to the match

Asmodean

I haven't seen this result but I hope that Sweden loses/lost if thats the crap they are saying. It likely won't matter much anyway -- Even if Denmark beat Sweden they would probably need even another upset to move forward ( ie beating the Swiss) Thats the disadvantage of coming into the second round with zero points

[Flubber]

I see the Swedes pulled it out against the Danes but Germany upset the Czechs-- which was not a huge surprise since they came close against Canada.

They are still in tough but they should beat Belarus . If they lose tot he Sates though, they will be stuck hoping that the right combination of teams win. A 2-3 record could make the next round but its no way assured

[Sparrowhawk]

Anyone know how to find the video of Nickelson's testimony to parliament about the choice of Shane Doan as Team Canada Captain?

(I would search Youtobe, but I am not entirely sure I know what it is )

/me

[notyoueither]

I looked on CBC, but couldn't find it. Sorry SH.

On another topic. I guess Ovechkin is a head-hunting monster now. Stupid rules. Try regulating the equipment like they have for goalies. An unarmoured shoulder stands to take a lot of damage from a skull at full speed.

I'd still love to see him in Edmonton.

[Asher]

Canada's up 4-0 on USA as I type this.

Lombardi scored.

So dreamy...

[Asher]

Lombardi again!