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  • Originally posted by notyoueither
    If you think +/- is the most important stat for a player like Hemsky there is no hope for you.
    Again, I don't care if you set up lots of fancy plays if you give up more goals against too.

    A great hockey player is not a fancy, pushover player who falls on his ass constantly giving the opponents odd-man breaks. I don't care how much he scores if he can't be defensively responsible.

    +/- is an important stat for this reason. Perhaps if the Oilers cared more about +/- they could be a real team, but as it stands now their defense is a joke and it's clear to see what kind of philosophy made that happen.
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    • Originally posted by Asher

      I discussed my view of the situation as I knew it from the reports I'd read. It was an educational situation that everyone here handled well, except you.
      Yes and no. You didn't ask, you stated. You were very wrong, and continued to be wrong for a good 20 posts.

      Instead of shutting up and thinking that you had something to learn, you claimed the media in Edmonton are retarded.

      The first clue that one should shut up and listen should be that people who are paid to report on a subject are saying the exact opposite as you are, but that wasn't a good enough clue for you.

      You chose to educate the rest of us about the value of your 'facts' and opinions in a sport that it turns out you don't know as much about as you try to make out.

      So yes, educational for people like Drake who might be browsing the thread and wondering who knows what. Good job.

      You'd be reduced to a pile of quivering jello if a late cut from the Swedish womens team looked at you with hostility.

      You were being personal, and you're smart enough to know it. So stop it. I'm more than happy to trade barbs with you via PM, though.
      I wouldn't trade 'barbs' with you privately if you were the last human on Earth and I hadn't had sex for 30 years.

      Oh, and if you don't want silly responses, don't say stupid ****.
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      • As an aside, did you know that the Oilers are the proud owners of both #2 and #3 in amount of giveaways?

        Jason Smith owns #2 (56 giveaways thus far this season -- impressive!)
        Hemsky is #3 at 55 giveaways thus far -- but to his credit he's played in 8 less games.

        McCabe, my other favorite NHLer, is at #5 with 52.

        Edmonton represents a lot at the top of that chart, actually....Steve Staios has 45.
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        • Originally posted by Asher

          Again, I don't care if you set up lots of fancy plays if you give up more goals against too.

          A great hockey player is not a fancy, pushover player who falls on his ass constantly giving the opponents odd-man breaks. I don't care how much he scores if he can't be defensively responsible.

          +/- is an important stat for this reason. Perhaps if the Oilers cared more about +/- they could be a real team, but as it stands now their defense is a joke and it's clear to see what kind of philosophy made that happen.
          Of course. I own the Oilers, and not only that, but when Kevin Lowe speaks my voice comes out. And you know what? If you look closely you can see the strings I use to control MacTavish coming down from the rafters.

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          • Originally posted by notyoueither
            Yes and no. You didn't ask, you stated. You were very wrong, and continued to be wrong for a good 20 posts.

            Instead of shutting up and thinking that you had something to learn, you claimed the media in Edmonton are retarded.

            The first clue that one should shut up and listen should be that people who are paid to report on a subject are saying the exact opposite as you are, but that wasn't a good enough clue for you.


            Actually if you looked at my links, the CBC and Associated Press (last I checked these were organizations paid to report on a subject) were saying the exact same things.

            I wouldn't trade 'barbs' with you privately if you were the last human on Earth and I hadn't had sex for 30 years.

            Oh, and if you don't want silly responses, don't say stupid ****.
            Your inability to talk hockey without getting personal very quickly is very old. Maybe Ming can have a word with you.
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            • Originally posted by notyoueither
              Of course. I own the Oilers, and not only that, but when Kevin Lowe speaks my voice comes out. And you know what? If you look closely you can see the strings I use to control MacTavish coming down from the rafters.

              Yes, I was clearly implying you were the GM.

              Or perhaps I'm implying you're nothing but a blind follower of K-Lowe who doesn't understand the importance of well-rounded players.

              One is far more likely than the other, I'd think,
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              • Originally posted by notyoueither
                I wouldn't trade 'barbs' with you privately if you were the last human on Earth and I hadn't had sex for 30 years.
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                • Originally posted by Jaguar

                  It's funny because his second premise is true, hence the crankyness.
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                  • Originally posted by Asher



                    Actually if you looked at my links, the CBC and Associated Press (last I checked these were organizations paid to report on a subject) were saying the exact same things.
                    Since Nedved was taken off re-entry waivers, the Oilers are only accountable for half the pro-rated value of the contract this season.


                    Can you read the links you yourself post?

                    What does 'accountable' mean in your language of rocket science?
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                    • Originally posted by Asher

                      It's funny because his second premise is true, hence the crankyness.
                      His was better. Oh, but I do congratulate you for your excellent troll in the DC death toll thread. That was quality.
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                      • Originally posted by notyoueither
                        Since Nedved was taken off re-entry waivers, the Oilers are only accountable for half the pro-rated value of the contract this season.


                        Can you read the links you yourself post?

                        What does 'accountable' mean in your language of rocket science?
                        I hadn't read the full article as I'd heard it on CBC and posted the first written link I'd found.

                        Why are you so obsessed with this? It's bizarre.

                        People are wrong sometimes. Is it so rare with me that when it happens it makes you go into some bizarre manic fit?

                        I question Hemsky's salary and you jump down my throat with personal attacks. PERSPECTIVE, nye...
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                        • Originally posted by Asher

                          I hadn't read the full article as I'd heard it on CBC and posted the first written link I'd found.

                          Why are you so obsessed with this? It's bizarre.
                          So, who should look at your links before mouthing off, you or me?
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                          • Originally posted by notyoueither
                            So, who should look at your links before mouthing off, you or me?
                            What does this have to do with Hemsky being overpaid and overrated?

                            Do you even know what is going on here, nye? You're on some other world tonight.
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                            • Originally posted by Asher

                              I question Hemsky's salary and you jump down my throat with personal attacks. PERSPECTIVE, nye...
                              This isn't personal. This is discussing the arguments posted in the thread.

                              As for Hemsky's salary, he's a bargain. Locked up for 6 years at a very reasonable price for a player of his skills.

                              But of course, I don't expect someone who doesn't understand how the league and the CBA work to understand.
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                              • Originally posted by notyoueither
                                This isn't personal. This is discussing the arguments posted in the thread.

                                As for Hemsky's salary, he's a bargain. Locked up for 6 years at a very reasonable price for a player of his skills.

                                But of course, I don't expect someone who doesn't understand how the league and the CBA work to understand.
                                I do not know how you think this line of argument is not personal.

                                Perhaps one day you'll have a strong enough argument to argue in this thread based on, you know, hockey stuff.

                                In the meantime, as a friend, I have noticed you are agitated and clearly in a depressive funk right now. As such, I have taken the liberty of opening up a therapy thread for you in the OTF. Please join us there.
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