Forgive those that trespass? Not in AZ

[zakubandit]

Wanna question my integrity again?

[zakubandit]

KH, the United States are a union of sovereign states. You hold residency to a state, you are thus a citizen of that state. The Union itself is a fabrication on paper. You are a citizen of the states as a whole yes, but when you reside within a state you are thus a citizen of that state. Call me traditional, secessionist, or separatist, but I believe in the states rights over the federal governments. We have separation of powers to ensure that the Fedys don't step on the toes of the states that form the Union for our betterment. Not the other way around. And the pics....you questioned my integrity.

[KrazyHorse]

Wanna question my integrity again?

I have no idea what you think you've just proven.

???

[KrazyHorse]

KH, the United States are a union of sovereign states. You hold residency to a state, you are thus a citizen of that state.

No. This is so blatantly wrong that I don't even know where to begin:

1) A resident of a state need not be a US citizen
2) Furthermore, a resident of a state NEED NOT EVEN BE A RESIDENT OF THE US
3) Even furthermore, some citizens of the US have no state of residence.
4) There is no such thing as holding citizenship to a state. There is only citizenship of the US. The rules for dealing with such citizenship are decided solely by the the US federal government.

Look at your passport (if you have one, and assuming you are American). What citizenship is listed in it? If your state of residence is even listed, it is only there as part of your home address.

****.

[zakubandit]

You don't believe the fact that I was a soldier? Combat arms. 19K M1A1 Abrams Main battle tank combat crewman.

1-11ACR Camp Taji, Sadr City, Abu Ghraib area. 2005-2006

[Kuciwalker]

Just handle him, Zak. It's hard to discuss something with a child who covers his ears and hums.

Article I, Section 8:
The Congress shall have power

...

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;



Article VI:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

[Kuciwalker]

Suck it, *****.

[KrazyHorse]

Not the other way around.

So Arizona can declare war on Mexico?

[KrazyHorse]

Forget it. Kuci: according to this **** Arizona can declare war on Mexico because the constitution does not limit the power of states as sovereign entities.

[KrazyHorse]

And I already beat you to the section 8 stuff.

[zakubandit]

Dude, KH your a sad excuse of a human being. Your the type of person that made me question why I swore the oath. You and I are gonna be at this all day and all night. I show you a couple shots of my time in the Army, one of my medals, my WLC(PLDC) graduation certificate, and still you question me. What have you done for your "country" lately? When have you done anything not for yourself?

And yea, **** for brains, I got out of the Army and became an EFL teacher for a company in China. Midea. My wife is a veteran also, quartermaster. My father is an engineer, got me the job at Midea. I got out of the Army because I had a family and going to war for a living wasn't a very good idea of a career if my son wants to have a father next year. I have lived all over the US, born in NY, raised in AZ, lived in TX, CA, MA, KY, NC, WA, and PA. I have been around the world. I spent 5 years in the US Army as a tanker. I signed up at 17, shipped out at 18. Any thing else about me you think you want to know? That you want to question? Or are you just assuming that I can lie about everything, and that I fabricated my own life story with intricate details just to mess with you?

[KrazyHorse]

Like I said 2 pages ago: this is cheap political grandstanding. The instant it comes before a judge it gets thrown out. There is BLACK LETTER LAW along with at least one precedent precisely on point.

[zakubandit]

OK, so then the state will just roll over and let the leftists ignore the problem. Arizona can go to hell with its illegal problem instead of trying to resolve the problem themselves, because it has become pretty obvious Obama doesn't care enough. Hell those are half his voters anyways, right?

[KrazyHorse]

Dude, KH your a sad excuse of a human being. Your the type of person that made me question why I swore the oath.

Lord, this is too funny.

You and I are gonna be at this all day and all night. I show you a couple shots of my time in the Army, one of my medals, my WLC(PLDC) graduation certificate, and still you question me. What have you done for your "country" lately? When have you done anything not for yourself?

No, I'm not going to be at this all night. I've already thoroughly demolished whatever credibility you had on US constitutional law (technically, I merely let you do it to yourself...****). And while I enjoy a good teabagging as much as the next guy, I've got research to do tomorrow.

And yea, **** for brains, I got out of the Army and became an EFL teacher for a company in China. Midea. My wife is a veteran also, quartermaster. My father is an engineer, got me the job at Midea. I got out of the Army because I had a family and going to war for a living wasn't a very good idea of a career if my son wants to have a father next year. I have lived all over the US, born in NY, raised in AZ, lived in TX, CA, MA, KY, NC, WA, and PA. I have been around the world. I spent 5 years in the US Army as a tanker. I signed up at 17, shipped out at 18. Any thing else about me you think you want to know? That you want to question? Or are you just assuming that I can lie about everything, and that I fabricated my own life story with intricate details just to mess with you?

I have no idea why you would want to fabricate your entire life story. I haven't yet speculated on your motives.

[KrazyHorse]

OK, so then the state will just roll over and let the leftists ignore the problem. Arizona can go to hell with its illegal problem instead of trying to resolve the problem themselves,

AZ is free to attempt to secede if they don't like the rules under which they signed up to be part of the US.

because it has become pretty obvious Obama doesn't care enough. Hell those are half his voters anyways, right?

Seriously, the Obama win really brought the nuts out of the closet, didn't it.