Support For Same Sex Marriage Grows

[chequita guevara]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/04/27/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4972643.shtml

Forty-two percent of Americans now say same sex couples should be allowed to legally marry, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. That's up nine points from last month, when 33 percent supported legalizing same sex marriage.

Support for same sex marriage is now at its highest point since CBS News starting asking about it in 2004.

Twenty-eight percent say same sex couples should have no legal recognition – down from 35 percent in March – while 25 percent support civil unions, but not marriage, for gay couples.

As has historically been the case on this issue, liberals are more likely to support same sex marriage. Sixty-nine percent support the idea, while conservatives generally favor either civil unions (28 percent) or no legal recognition (44 percent).

[KrazyHorse]

I love watching social sea changes.

[KrazyHorse]

I remember 12 or 13 years ago hearing my parents talk about homosexuality in hushed, disapproving tones.

Today their attitude is pretty laissez-faire about it.

[Wiglaf]

It was either that or kick your gay ass out the house.

[Ming]

Yeah... the religious right is lossing it's strangle hold on America. Their "beliefs" are behind the times, and just forcing more people away from religion. Dumb on their part

[self biased]

honestly, i think anything the government has its hands in should be a civil union. marraige has always been a religious institution. besides, who gives a **** what you call your relationship?

[chequita guevara]

We don't know that marriage has always been a religious institution (ignoring the fact that secular marriage has existed for a long damn time). Even if it was, who cares? Screw the religionistas.

[KrazyHorse]

It was either that or kick your gay ass out the house.

Stop your strange homoerotic flirtations, Wiggy. I am ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RED-BLOODED HETEROSEXUAL.

Your CONSTANT PMs containing pictures of African-American men in various states of undress only arouse me SLIGHTLY.

As you live in DC I suggest you take the Metro to Northeast with a sign reminiscent of the one worn by Bruce Willis at the beginning of Die Hard III and allow the locals to take their frustrations out on your darkstar.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yeah... the religious right is lossing it's strangle hold on America. Their "beliefs" are behind the times, and just forcing more people away from religion. Dumb on their part.

Well lets see.

Innovation by the west that historically has disastrous outcomes, or

Orthodox Christianity, which has survived now for 2000 years?

Yeah, I'm going to put my money on Orthodox Christianity there.

[KrazyHorse]

Innovation by the west that historically has disastrous outcomes

Social liberalization has had disastrous outcomes?

[KrazyHorse]

Europe as a monastery is what's affectionately known as "the Dark Ages" for a reason.



BURN THE WITCH! BURN HER!

[KrazyHorse]

Poor Ben. Even the US is deserting him.

[Ben Kenobi]

We don't know that marriage has always been a religious institution/

Under Christianity and Judaism, yes it has, and that goes pretty far back, almost to the beginnings of recorded history.

Even if it was, who cares? Screw the religionistas.

Perhaps there's a reason why the two have been so closely associated with the most successful societies. Do you think there's no rationale why the two are connected to one another?

[chequita guevara]

Poor Ben. Even the US is deserting him.

[Ben Kenobi]

Social liberalization has had disastrous outcomes?

Yes, look at the total economic production of Western Europe.

In 1000 AD, Western Europe had about 9 percent of the total economic outpet of the world. In 1998, this was at 21 percent.

The last time it was this low was back in the 1600's.

North America, in the 1950's was at 31 percent. It is now at 25 percent, the lowest it's been since the 30's.

http://gsociology.icaap.org/report/longterm.html

Especially table 1.13.

Western Europe is in an incredible decline, I didn't realise it was this bad, until I looked at the numbers.

The combination of Western Europe and North America puts out about 46 percent, which is slightly higher then the numbers back in 1870, when North America contributed 10 percent, and Western Europe was at the height of their influence.

If we include Eastern Europe and Russia, the total is somewhere around 1840s to 1850s. The total for all 5 is 50 percent. That is down from the peak of 70 percent back in 1950, although still quite higher then the 32 percent recorded in 1820.