Imperium

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This is the mall in my city (Omsk, which is 2000 miles away from Moscow).

[Serb]

The store next door:
(A typical Omsk store, two minutes walk from your appartments)

[Serb]

I certainly agree Israel is defending itself from the evil Islamic terrorists who murdered 1700 of its citizens back in October of last year. I further agree that Putin's Russia is engaged in a evil, brutal, war of conquest (for which it is failing) which is terrible and for which there is no defense. I, personally, hope all of those Russian war criminals are both tried and hanged

Cough! The last time I have checked, 15 000 of Russians slaughtered by Ukranians is a little bit bigger than 1 700 Israelis.

Your media will never show you what your fancy Ukranian Nazi friends did at Donbass and Kursk. How they raped, murdered and tortured to death civilians for just being Russian.

You are living with an eyes wide shut.

[Serb]

the overwhelming majority of the colonies were divested by legal process. The Donbass did not pursue the legal process

Oh, really?
So, the will of the people expressed via referendum is not legal enough for you?

How many referendums you, Americans had when you were seceding from the United Kingdom?
In what court you have gained your freedom?
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the overwhelming majority of the colonies were divested by legal process.

Bullsh!t!
The overwhelming majority of liberation from the colonial oppression was won in a fight for freedom, not in the court.

and like Russia, Ukraine had discretion to refuse as Russia did for Chechnya.

Unlike Ukraine, Russia has never had an intention to exterminate Chechen language, their culture and faith and forcibly assimilate Chechens to make them Russians. We have never threatened to "knife the Chechens" or "hang the Chechens", like your Ukrainian friends did in 2014, before any the Crimea, the Russian invasion of 2022 or any other bull****. At winter 2014, when they were jumping at Maidan, overthrowing a legal government and threatening to exterminate all the Russians and first of all the domestic ones. Half of Ukraine, which historically was a part of Russia for MANY CENTURIES, but was presented by Communists to Ukrainian Soviet Socialistic Republic as a gift, like Donbass in 1920 by Lenin or Crimea in 1954 by Khrushev has revolted against the illegal coup you call Maidan, which was held under the Nazi slogans. The first law new Kiev authorities had issued after the coup, was the law to ban Russian language. Now not only they have banned the Russian language, Russian culture, and Russian Orthodox Christian faith, now they burn Russian classical literature books like Nazis (whom they are), teach their kids to kill Russians in their kindergartens and destroy monuments to Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Chekhov, destroy monuments and graves of Ukrainians who fought versus Nazism, but erect monuments to the bloody Nazi collaborators responsible for slaughter of hundreds of thousand innocent civilians in a most brutal and inhuman way. Such Nazi butchers are their National heroes now.

Do you honestly think that considering such circumstances​ Donbass and Crimea had no right to revolt just to save themselves?
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You don't have a leg to stand on here Serb.

I have both legs to stand here.

You can't say that Crimea and the Donbass had some right for instant unilateral secession while maintaining that Chechnya did not or that the break up of the USSR was illegal.

But, the breakup of USSR WAS ILLEGAL!!!

Ukraine had no right to secede from the USSR in 1991 the way it did.​

Firstly because there was a referendum, which results have clearly proved that the absolute majority of Soviet people want to keep the Soviet Union intact.
Secondly, because USSR had a constitution and THE SPECIAL LAW, which has a detailed procedure for quitting the Union by any of its republics. In that law was described a strict LEGAL procedure, the sequence of events and LEGAL actions a Soviet republic should do, if she decided to quit the Soviet Union.​

So, you can shove your "legal" argument where the sun doesn't shine.

As for your analogy with Chechnya, you seem to forget that Russia has given a de facto independence to Chechnya with Hasavyurt peace agreements of 1996.

For three years Chechnya was de facto an independent state.

And became a snake nest for international terrorists of all kinds, who committed innumerous terrorist attacks against Russia from their base in Checnhya.

And it was only in 1999, when THEY HAVE INVADED the neighboring Russian region of Dagestan (which had no relation to Chechen independence whatsoever, but was a first step in their expansion to establish a World's Islamic Khalifate), when we were forced to retaliate and restore the constitutional order in Chechnya.

Once again, - it was THEM in 1999, who committed a full-scale military invasion into our land, NOT US INVADING THEM!

And after three years of Islamist bacchanalia there, the people of Chechnya have supported our forces to restore order. They have voted for their new constitution, elected their new leaders in a democratic way and 25 years after made Chechnya one of the most beautiful and prosperous regions of Russia.
And now Chechens fight back-to-back with Russians in the Ukrainian conflict.
Chechens are no less Russians than I am. We are all Russians.
All of the people of our huge common Motherland.

So Chechnya and Donbass are not even a close.

Period.

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