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  • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
    The best strategy for companies is to be socially neutral. That way everyone can hate them equally.
    That is apparently very difficult however. It seems the only way to be regarded as socially neutral is to refuse to do any business with any person or organization which is not also socially neutral on everything.

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    • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

      That is apparently very difficult however. It seems the only way to be regarded as socially neutral is to refuse to do any business with any person or organization which is not also socially neutral on everything.
      I think there may be some truth to this. Marketing has become more about image than substance. I miss the days when companies actually told you about their products....
      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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      • Originally posted by PLATO View Post

        I think there may be some truth to this. Marketing has become more about image than substance. I miss the days when companies actually told you about their products....
        From the The Invention of Lying



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        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
          The Budweiser fiasco is an example of a movement truly motivated by hate. Budweiser did not in any way inflict the offending paid representative on anyone but millions of Budweiser consumers apparently felt the need to retaliate against Budweiser purely out of spite towards the offending paid representative.

          Am I wrong? Were the boycotters in any way exposed to anything they could feel offended about that they wouldn't have to go out of their way to be exposed to?

          ​​​​​Will companies only be able to work with people who have never said anything that some fraction of their consumers could feel offended by?

          Sad.
          People are turned off by the preaching

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          • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

            People are turned off by the preaching
            Totally agree that preaching anything usually turns people off or pushes their buttons. Bad either way. But did budweiser actually preach anything in this case?

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            • A backlash to wokism has been growing, its the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.

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              • I'm not sure that simply contracting with some woke activist influencer to sell booze to their associated market can in way be construed as any kind of 'wokism'.

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                • That's the thing: It was totally transactional, with Bud simply opening an advertising channel to Dylan Mulvaney's 10 million+ Tik Tok followers in early April. No harm, no foul.

                  But then the right decided to promote them even more by trying to turn it into culture wars, going viral online, then drawing the kind of global MSM media coverage that Anheiser-Busch was likely hoping for.

                  But what about the boycott? What about Kid Rock? Is it working? Well, Bud Light sales are down, but it's really just a drop in the bucket, representing less than 1% of Anheuser-Busch Inbev revenue. And the free media exposure has gone through the roof.

                  In all, Anheuser-Busch is up by nearly 11% over the past six months, meaning the brouhaha and boycott had little impact on the company’s overall success or market cap.

                  Anheuser-Busch’s counterpart and competitor, Molson Coors Beverage Company, definitely benefited from the boycott. Its price rose from $52.12 on April 3 to $54.27 on April 12 and continued to rise to more than $65, approaching its 52-week high on May 2 before starting to lose ground.

                  However, Anheuser-Busch could be the better investment over the long haul. Stock analysts say that Anheuser-Busch is currently undervalued and is a good pick for value investors. Anheuser-Busch seems to have the staying power and name recognition of brands like Coca-Cola, Disney and Verizon, at a much lower price point. Investors are labeling Anheuser Busch as a “strong buy.â€â€‹

                  So, great job, righty culture warriors.
                  Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
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                  • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
                    I'm not sure that simply contracting with some woke activist influencer to sell booze to their associated market can in way be construed as any kind of 'wokism'.
                    While your statement is logical, there seems to be a large segment of beer buyers that disagree. You have to remember that most of America has now sworn off using logic.....
                    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                    • Construing a woke activist with wokism is illogical?

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                      • American beer explained :

                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • Originally posted by PLATO View Post

                          While your statement is logical, there seems to be a large segment of beer buyers that disagree. You have to remember that most of America has now sworn off using logic.....
                          Something something cancel culture.
                          Indifference is Bliss

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                          • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post

                            Something something cancel culture.
                            I only accept cancel culture for those who advocate violence. Everyone else who holds offensive views needs daylight and refutation/mockery.

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                            • Okay, I understand the govt needing to get out its message especially during medical emergencies but the same govt just proved itself not only unreliable and malicious in how it behaved during Covid but they will likely continue censoring us even after getting caught. Rumor control

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                              • -Jrabbit
                                -Jrabbit commented
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                                This is a public FDA website new page, not a deep state plot. The actual text from your link:

                                The growing spread of rumors, misinformation and disinformation about science, medicine, and the FDA, is putting patients and consumers at risk. We’re here to provide the facts.

                                Don't be misled.

                                Watch how to identify and help stop the spread of health misinformation.


                                This is not censorship. It's basically a public health warning to encourage fact-checking. You remember facts, right?

                              • Berzerker
                                Berzerker commented
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                                I said they will likely continue censoring us, so it doesn't matter what their website says. They did censor people, they attacked critics and misled the world. They told us vaccinated people wouldn't get or spread Covid and they smeared the unvaccinated who got Covid from the vaccinated because of their lie and censored people telling the truth.

                                They're calling it 'rumor control', I think its safe to assume they'll do more than post 'facts' on their website to control rumors, they were doing that long before Covid. Social media was told to censor people over Covid policy and they're still censoring people, I dont see why the FDA would reverse policy now by creating a new agency to control rumors without instructing social media about what rumors need controlling.



                            • guess how many 'feds' were there on Jan 6?

                              More than the handful of 'seditionists'

                              We dont get to see the video of what happened, either because we'd see feds committing crimes or to protect the identities of undercover people. Or both.

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                              • -Jrabbit
                                -Jrabbit commented
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                                Jimmy Dore Alert!
                                Alt headline: Mediocre comedian remains insistent that the entire Jan6 insurrection was a government plot.
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