The Media is Propaganda

[Bereta_Eder]

the ones that will take power are hard core commies.
they don't give a rats ass about wealth they only care about the people

also they are systemically allergic to enterprenialship

so while they are literally uncorruptible (nad that is bvery good) they are also either completely stupid or hostile to enterprise


I choose them

[Bereta_Eder]

Actually if they were abit smarter they could weep the floor with the current gov that has been devasytated by a series of serious democratic discrepancies that offend the democratic spirit of the people.


and although pretty much admits that they are corrupt and democratically compromised, the fact that the opposition is comprised of cute clueless (but at the same time incorruptable) commies holds the oposition back

if it was more smart and got rid of some relics of the past it could rule Greece for decades

but the righ wing while corrupt to the core has a firm grasp of finance (albeit primarily for its own sake)

still the commies will win because tghe righties sacrified 57 young lives in a train crash to panter to those afforementioned media comngomerates that (guess what) also own the roads in greece and actively want the degradation of the railway system (a system for not wealthy young people to travel all around the country)

and the young people said: hey they are f killing us here to give money to their pals

we should do something about it

the left wing is hegemonial to the greek youth it is the absolute winner

and that is hoepful as much as it is just and is the future

[N35t0r]

Your mind reading aside are you saying journalists should out people exposing government corruption if they bypass journalists? They didn't just investigate him, they told the FBI. I dont know the extent of US involvement setting up the coup, it was carried out on the ground by the Ukrainian right wing. And I dont know enough about the leak to know the motives of people involved. But assuming the press scooped the security state why would that erase from history every coup the US has backed? Hey, the FBI was late to a leak therefore the US has never backed a coup.

I can't even follow you logic here.

[BlackCat]

Conspiracy logic are always difficult to understand unless you are living in a fantasy world

[Berzerker]

I can't even follow you logic here.

Here was your logic:

"I find it funny that Berz thinks that the US intelligence apparatus was capable of "setting up a coup" in Ukraine and blaming the Russians for it, but they needed help from the press to catch this guy."

Iow, the USA is incapable of setting up coups because the press found the leaker for them. Thats your argument.

I didn't mention them blaming the Russians

[N35t0r]

Here was your logic:

"I find it funny that Berz thinks that the US intelligence apparatus was capable of "setting up a coup" in Ukraine and blaming the Russians for it, but they needed help from the press to catch this guy."

Iow, the USA is incapable of setting up coups because the press found the leaker for them. Thats your argument.

I didn't mention them blaming the Russians

That's not my argument.

[Berzerker]

If the FBI needs the NYT to catch a leaker how could the US set up a coup? Thats your argument, not mine.

[Berzerker]

WSJ (owned by Murdoch too) is claiming Tucker got in trouble because he was badmouthing Fox execs and the Dominion lawsuit exposed those messages. That probably makes about as much sense as anything else, the proverbial straw breaking Carlson's back.

[Berzerker]

another theory, Murdoch backs DeSantis and wants to pivot Fox away from Trump/MAGA. Tucker will be in the way

[Berzerker]

Murdoch and his fiancee broke up recently and Carlson was her favorite host

[N35t0r]

If the FBI needs the NYT to catch a leaker how could the US set up a coup? Thats your argument, not mine.

Yeah, but what you answered doesn't make any sense.

[N35t0r]

another theory, Murdoch backs DeSantis and wants to pivot Fox away from Trump/MAGA. Tucker will be in the way

The 'Tucker just cost them almost a billion dollars' angle alone is enough, I'd say.

[Berzerker]

The 'Tucker just cost them almost a billion dollars' angle alone is enough, I'd say.

Tucker didn't cost them over Dominion, the hosts who did were already fired and he exposed the lack of Sidney Powell's evidence for election fraud on his show. And apparently firing Tucker cost Fox more than Dominion when stocks slid.

[Berzerker]

Yeah, but what you answered doesn't make any sense.

Do you believe the USA is incapable of coups because the FBI needed help catching this man? Thats the 'contradictory' belief you've dropped on my doorstep. You think its funny if people believe the USA backed the 2014 coup because the press found the leaker before the FBI. Doesn't make any sense aptly describes your straw man.

[-Jrabbit]

You quoted him, but apparently didn't read it. Actually, what he said was that he found your concurrent beliefs in both those things to be amusing. That certainly doesn't mean that HE believes either of those things, yet you persist in claiming he does. Then (and pretty ironically, I must say!) you call your own misinterpretation of his observation as some sort of syllogism, a strawman.

[Berzerker]

Biden's cheat sheet... He had a press conference while holding paper with his instructions right down to the names and photos of reporters and their questions.

[N35t0r]

Do you believe the USA is incapable of coups because the FBI needed help catching this man? Thats the 'contradictory' belief you've dropped on my doorstep. You think its funny if people believe the USA backed the 2014 coup because the press found the leaker before the FBI. Doesn't make any sense aptly describes your straw man.

There's a big leap between what I posted and what you just said.

If I said 'If elephants were the size of a mouse, they'd be easier to jump over', it doesn't mean I believe that elephants are the size of a mouse, or that I would like to jump over them.

Talk about a strawman...