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  • #31
    The OP is talking about newspapers and TV news, that is the goalpost. That is "the media" the poll is talking about and you're complaining because I didn't say some media is propaganda.

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    • #32
      Judging Freedom is a great chanenel, Berz!

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      • #33
        newspapers and TV news
        corporate/big tech, government controlled media
        Congrats, you modified your broadsweeping generalizations into other forms of broadsweeping generalizations.
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        • #34
          keep llistening to you CNN!

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          • Berzerker
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            CNN is some propaganda lol

        • #35
          Originally posted by BeBMan View Post
          Congrats, you modified your broadsweeping generalizations into other forms of broadsweeping generalizations.
          I'm using the poll and its respondents 'generalization'

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          • #36
            Too bad that it doesn't support anything you said, since you "used" stuff insofar that you quoted parts from an article then claiming that it's in fact all different cuz, y'know "the media" before limiting it to "the media, except...".
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            • #37
              Congratulations to FOXNews for winning their voting machine lawsuit - a great $740 million investment.
              I hear Trump will be appearing on one of your 'news' programs soon... double of nothing?

              There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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              • #38
                I go to the BBC for news the most often in part because US news outlets all spin any US news so heavily to suit their partisan subscriber/viewer/reader base's expectations and demands that I usually can't stand sticking with their coverage of anything for long.

                Sometimes however I am reminded at how much these editorial spin decisions warp even the BBC.

                The 16-year-old went to pick up his brothers from a sleepover. Instead, he was shot at close range.


                That is the article I first read about the appalling shooting of a 16 year old door bell ringer twice by a gun wielding psycho gun owner.


                A few days later I saw this article and was immediately reminded of the earlier shooting of Ralph Yarl.

                Police report the arrest of a man accused of shooting a little girl and her father in North Carolina.


                However, I remembered that the first story wasted no time informing us that the victim was 'black' and the shooter was 'white'. I surmised that the race of victim and shooter was probably not relevant to this second story and assumed that all of the victims presumably didn't look racially distinct from the shooter. The BBC offered a picture of the shooter but nothing for the victims. I wanted to confirm this however, because I think disparate racial news coverage policies have an exceedingly toxic effect on diverse societies. I looked in vain for a mainstream news outlet to fill in the missing information and finally had to settle instead for pictures of both the shooter and the victims in an article in Sun news.

                THE gunman who allegedly shot his six-year-old neighbor and both of her parents Tuesday night has turned himself into authorities in Florida. The family was attacked after a basketball rolled into …


                It doesn't look to me like the victims in the second shooting are any less racially distinct from the shooter than was the case in the first shooting.

                So why does every Western news outlet volunteer racial information on the shooting of 16 year old black Ralph Yarl by an 84 year old white Andrew Lester for ringing his doorbell? And whatever that reason is why do none of them offer any victim names or victim and shooter racial information on the shooting of the 6 year old Kinsley White and her two parents Ashley Hilderbrand and William White, all shot for pursuing a basketball into Robert Louis Singletary's yard?

                The reason essentially is political and that makes the involved Western news outlets into defacto propaganda. When it comes to covering "race" news outlets inform the public when minorities are victims of "white" people and obfuscate or at least totally ignore racial information if apparently "white" people are the victims of racial minorities. I am sure they have the best intentions in doing this but it is not journalistically defensible and I am sure it will have terrible toxic effects on the slow painful efforts to confront and eliminate racism in our societies.
                Last edited by Geronimo; April 20, 2023, 20:14. Reason: copy-edit

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                • Uncle Sparky
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                  They seem to all be men shooting people with guns... The US needs more guns, so everyone can shoot everyone else.

                • Geronimo
                  Geronimo commented
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                  my biggest fear is that coverage of shootings will become so incessant that even terrible mass shootings will escape notice giving a false sense that things aren't spiraling out of control. Even if it is too late for maximum effectiveness due to astronomical numbers of guns on the street in the US, new strong gun control laws and total enforcement of existing laws are obviously desperately needed. I can't see that happening if the problem becomes in any way less visible.

              • #39
                Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
                Congratulations to FOXNews for winning their voting machine lawsuit - a great $740 million investment.
                I hear Trump will be appearing on one of your 'news' programs soon... double of nothing?
                Looks like Fox were lying to support the big lie. How smartmatic! Also looking fwd to the individual trials for Rudy et al.
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                • #40
                  Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                  I cant, can you quote it?
                  It's a link to a Whistleblower website. This particular one states its mission is to support whistleblowers in their efforts to expose and help prosecute corruption and other wrongdoing around the world.​

                  What Journalists Need to Know About Whistleblowers

                  1. Know the laws

                  If you are writing about whistleblowers, familiarize yourself with the protection laws. There is no universal whistleblower law. From the False Claims Act to the Dodd-Frank Act to the Whistleblower Protection Act, an extensive legal framework surrounds whistleblower protection in the United States. Whistleblower rights depend on the procedures set forth in over 50 different federal laws and countless state laws.

                  Know that those in the private sector may not have the same rewards and protections that federal whistleblowers may have.


                  It sets out a whole lot more, but the basic point I was making - what rights and protections you have as a 'whistleblower' depend on your actions and conduct and are set out by codes of ethics and legal frameworks. Subjective personal opinion on whistleblowers is fine to have, but there is a framework for this stuff for journalists, and just because you don't see consistency does not mean it is not there..
                  Last edited by Dauphin; April 21, 2023, 10:59.
                  One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                  • Dauphin
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                    That's your comeback? LOL

                  • Berzerker
                    Berzerker commented
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                    Didn't you post that to support outing the guy?

                  • Dauphin
                    Dauphin commented
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                    No. My position was that I see no duty to protect him.

                • #41
                  Hunter Biden tax probe improperly handled - whistleblower

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65344338


                  It will be interesting to see how this case of a would-be "whistelblower" in a federal government context plays out in comparison to earlier whisteblowers during the Trump administration.

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                  • Uncle Sparky
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                    Gee... could someone link to the tax probes against Donald Trump's children? What about court cases involving them as defendants. Try Maryland and NY as potential venues. I could, but that would again make me wonder how stup!d Mercans are for supporting a family of grifters and thieves.

                  • Geronimo
                    Geronimo commented
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                    I'd be grateful if you could do that regardless of it making you wonder how stupid Mericans are for supporting a family of grifters and theives.

                  • Berzerker
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                    Biden voters complaining about grifters lol

                • #42
                  Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
                  The reason essentially is political and that makes the involved Western news outlets into defacto propaganda. When it comes to covering "race" news outlets inform the public when minorities are victims of "white" people and obfuscate or at least totally ignore racial information if apparently "white" people are the victims of racial minorities. I am sure they have the best intentions in doing this but it is not journalistically defensible and I am sure it will have terrible toxic effects on the slow painful efforts to confront and eliminate racism in our societies.
                  I might believe their intentions were good if not for how they consistently attack critics. The media was integral to the hundreds of BLM riots based on the lie racist white cops were slaughtering innocent black people. And that was done before the election, MAGA had 1 riot after the election and the media cries crocodile tears over the demise of democracy. Reminds me of how the media went after people over covid policy, they weren't just lying for the greater good, they were downright nasty about it. Smearing people, firing people, demonizing them. What is the good intent of telling vaccinated people they wont spread covid and when they do then blaming the unvaccinated for spreading covid. Thats called shamelessly covering yerass at best.

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                  • #43
                    Tony Blinken was on Biden's campaign and he and Mike Morell organized the deep state's letter dismissing the lap top story as Russian election interference, so 51 top level intel people signed it and the Biden campaign and media used their letter to deny, ignore or censor the story. The lap top was not Russian and these people interfered in the election and then we get lectures about democracy from these power hungry sociopaths. They wanted this war in Ukraine and Trump was in the way.

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                    • #44
                      Here are two articles covering several lawsuits against Kushner. Now, someone can link to two lawsuits filed against, and lost by Hunter Biden. Fun Game!

                      Kushner Companies and tenant lawsuits: A brief history - Curbed NY​ (as of 2018)
                      Jared Kushner’s Company Reaches $3.25 Million Settlement in Maryland Lawsuit - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (as of 2022)​
                      There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                      • #45
                        Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post
                        Here are two articles covering several lawsuits against Kushner. Now, someone can link to two lawsuits filed against, and lost by Hunter Biden. Fun Game!

                        Kushner Companies and tenant lawsuits: A brief history - Curbed NY​ (as of 2018)
                        Jared Kushner’s Company Reaches $3.25 Million Settlement in Maryland Lawsuit - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (as of 2022)​
                        Thanks! It doesn't seem like either case involved a whistleblower so I suppose they won't be useful for comparing disparate whistleblower treatment, but I wanted to learn more in any case.

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