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  • #16
    You can look at Georgia actually. There it is non-Trump Republicans versus traditional Democrats.

    Kemp might do a lot of manipulation (no water to people in lines, etc). But I am pretty sure if he loses the vote count, he will accept it. Just like what happened in 2020.

    However, in some places (Arizona, I think), the candidates say that they will not accept the count and threaten to change votes for federal elections against the vote count.

    It is different. The manipulation is bad. The refusal to accept results and change of votes is worse.

    JM
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    • #17
      Originally posted by PLATO View Post

      Other than that, a Republican victory will lead to stalemate on the domestic front and essentially make Biden a lame duck for the next two years. While that may prevent some good being done, it could equally prevent some harm. In the end, I think divided government is a good thing as it forces things that have consensus to be done.
      This use to be done. And maybe would still be done if it was 51 Republicans in the Senate versus 49 Democrats.

      That isn't what will happen if the Republicans take the House. There are not enough Bush Jr. /Reagan/Bush Sr./Romney Republicans left in the House (are there more than 5?).

      JM
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      • #18
        JM is right. RIP democracy 1968-2022
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post

          The Republicans have been saying they will do that, not the Democrats. The two parties havent been the same for some time. We can argue if it was Trump or Tea Party or Gingrich or Reagan (I don't think so). But some time.

          JM
          The parties say what they say to manipulate the public and do what they do for power. I find the idea of someone assuming the Democrats have shown themselves trustworthy with such power because they don't say they plan to abuse it or that some Republicans claim they will transparently anuse the power makes them more dangerous ludicrous.

          Again, the solution isn't to watch the noisy ones it's to remove the temptation as much as possible.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

            The parties say what they say to manipulate the public and do what they do for power. I find the idea of someone assuming the Democrats have shown themselves trustworthy with such power because they don't say they plan to abuse it or that some Republicans claim they will transparently anuse the power makes them more dangerous ludicrous.

            Again, the solution isn't to watch the noisy ones it's to remove the temptation as much as possible.
            Looking from outside, the republicans seem much more willing to resort to 'its not technically illegal, so we'll do it' tactics than the democrats, so I think it is a fair take on JM's side.
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            • #21
              Let's just declare everyone equally bad in elections and bring in an autocrat to solve the prob. I'm available for the throne, if the salary is good enough
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              • #22
                I've kinda checked out on politics lately. I get the feeling that the GOP just doesn't have the oomph it used to since Roe v. Wade got overturned, though I am hopeful for some recovery done on that subject since it's virtually the only Republican thing I believe in. They aren't really in a position to call for civil war since Trump is no longer a significant part of the conversation (and I don't see him recovering the old magic by next year). Nobody else is quite that reckless and crazy, and the GOP really would like to reassemble itself into a workable party again. It'll take time. I want the midterms to hand a slight majority to both houses to the GOP so Biden will not be able to waste any more money on stupid crap but the GOP crazies won't be able to force anything past him. And I have a certain amount of faith in Democratic incompetence to hand us that.

                Any talk about the demise of democracy is premature at best, at this stage.
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                • #23
                  You guys are all nuts save JM and Donegal. If you can't see how off the rails the republicans have become since Trump you are worse than blind and niave, you are complicit. I won't call you Nazis to your face, expect for Dinner, but you kinda are.
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                  • #24
                    The only thing saving us is how fat, lazy and medicated everyone has become.
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                    • #25
                      Yes. This is the end of democracy, just like Bush v Gore, Citizens United, the Tea Party, and every other Republican thingy of the past twenty-plus years.
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                      • #26
                        The hyper partisans on both sides always, always, ALWAYS declare this election will end the world unless their side wins.
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Elok View Post
                          Yes. This is the end of democracy, just like Bush v Gore, Citizens United, the Tea Party, and every other Republican thingy of the past twenty-plus years.
                          ?? The first 2 undeniably damaged democracy, the last was just an early iteration of the trump party. And LOL at dinner calling anyone a hyperpartisan
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                            The hyper partisans on both sides always, always, ALWAYS declare this election will end the world unless their side wins.
                            How many elections in a row has Fox News called "The most important election of our lifetime"? LOL!
                            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by EPW View Post

                              ?? The first 2 undeniably damaged democracy,
                              By "damaged democracy" do you mean eroded confidence in the system or caused harm to how the system works. Citizens United, I think, caused actual damage. It is hard to say that, imho, about Bush v Gore.
                              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by PLATO View Post

                                By "damaged democracy" do you mean eroded confidence in the system or caused harm to how the system works. Citizens United, I think, caused actual damage. It is hard to say that, imho, about Bush v Gore.
                                Bush vs Gore damaged confidence in the process, and the legitimacy of the supreme court. Gore handled the situation like a patriot and a man. (It did expose technical problems in the process though, which came up again in 04)
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                                • Berzerker
                                  Berzerker commented
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                                  Gore wanted a recount in his strongholds employing voter intent, ie dimpled or hanging chads etc., the courts intervened to protect the equal rights of other Florida voters.
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