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  • Yamamoto >>> Nimitz. Yama understood exactly what needed to be done for any chance of victory despite the ridiculous odds and almost succeeded. Nimitz was literally cheating by having cracked the Japanese code...
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    • Brits cracked the Enigma thingie. Just sayin'
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      • Originally posted by EPW View Post
        Yamamoto >>> Nimitz. Yama understood exactly what needed to be done for any chance of victory despite the ridiculous odds and almost succeeded. Nimitz was literally cheating by having cracked the Japanese code...
        No. Yamamato was stupid enough to split his forces at Midway and that battle turned out to be decisive. You take out the U.S. Carriers there and it is wide open to the West Coast.

        Nimitz did take advantage of a broken code...just as he did with many other tools that were available to him. The fact that he properly utilized said tool is actually a point in his favor. Far from making the strategic mistakes that Yamamato made, Nimitz demonstrated strategic brilliance with the concept of island hopping. Before that, the plan was to assualt the Japanese garrisons one at a time in a bloody slugfest across the Pacific. Not only did Nimitz save countless lives, he actually hastened the end of the war. To make all of that possible? Nimitz also practically invented replenishment at sea as a workable concept. This kept the fleet, marines, and soldiers moving forward instead of having to constantly return to base for replenishment. This also shortened the war. Hands down, Nimitz was brilliant both tactically and strategically.

        Mannerhiem was also a brilliant tactician. He literally saved his nation both during the war and after it. His biggest drawback is that he had to lay down with Nazi's to do it.

        Nimitz > Mannerhiem no matter how you cut it as a war leader however. This really should be an easy choice.
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          Yamamato had to take big gambles. The fact that he realized that at his level makes him the brilliant one. He was unlucky at Pearl Harbor not to catch the carriers and again at Midway with the broken code. Splitting his forces at Midway would have been considered brilliant if it had gone his way.

      • NVM brain fart
        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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        • 6 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA) +

          Eliminated:
          1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
          2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
          3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
          4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
          5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
          6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)
          7th - General Omar Bradley (USA)
          8th - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding (UK)
          9th - Heinz Guderian (Germany)
          10th - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
          11th - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
          12th - General George Patton (USA)
          13th - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
          14th - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)
          15th - Marshal Emil Mannerheim (Finland) --

          JM
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          • Time for a power graph per civ?

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            • What are you waiting for?
              My Words Are Backed With Bad Attitude And VETERAN KNIGHTS!

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              • How long did it take the US brass to pay attention to their captains about the faulty torpedoes?
                Indifference is Bliss

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                • Wrong thread.
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