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  • Did I post this here yet? I don't think I did.

     
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • Originally posted by MOBIUS
      Interesting how you think forcing these nations together so they have to cooperate with each other is funny...

      None of this is a joke, you know 🙄
      The Russians stealing Ukrainian children certainly isn't funny.
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      • Originally posted by MOBIUS
        Interesting how you think forcing these nations together so they have to cooperate with each other is funny...

        None of this is a joke, you know 🙄
        This requires more attention. So you believe that North Korea has a right to take over South Korea and China has a right to take over Taiwan? China isn't being forced to do anything, btw. It's treating the other three nations with all the tender loving care of a Philadelphia loan shark.
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        • Interesting
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • BeBMan
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            Nice little chitchat

        • Originally posted by MOBIUS

          Hardly. We're historically responsible for the ****ed situation in the Middle East. And China has a long memory too...

          ​​​ It's more than a bit hypocritical pretending we're the good guys.

          Now we're supporting a country that thinks nothing of targeting and killing thousands of civilians of a neutral neighbouring country now that it realises it can get away with literally any atrocity with impunity.

          Yes, as far as the West is concerned, the routine murder of tens of thousands of civilians has become entirely normalised. Supported even. 🙄
          Literally, targeting civilians is Russia's main M.O..
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • Yes, interesting.

            edit: that was directed at BlackCat's YT, which goes into why Russia is punishing civilians, among other things.
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            • Originally posted by MOBIUS
              And yet the Russians have killed fewer civilians in Ukraine over a much longer timeframe than the Israelis have in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon...

              Neither is it murdering the civilians of a neutral country, or bombing its capital and hospitals 🙄🤷‍♂️
              it's all population density. The Gazans are bottled up in a tiny territory and the Ukrainians are not. Ukrainians were allowed to leave Ukraine en masse by their neighbors and Gazans were not.

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              • -Jrabbit
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                The fact that it's easy does not make it OK to murder citizens.

            • Plus the Russians are incompetent.
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              • Of course, this is nothing new when it comes to Russia.

                The Decembrist conspiracy and its aftermath were thus one of the great turning points in history, a sinister signpost toward the horrors of the 20th century. Almost everything about this event had a gruesome symbolism, not excepting the executions of the five officers the Tsar did choose to hang, on 13 July 1826. The gallows had been hastily and badly erected during the previous night, on the glasis of the Peter-Paul Fortress. The morning was dark and misty, so fires were lit near the square into which all the prisoners had been herded to witness the deaths. At 3 A.M. the condemned men were led out. Their epaulets and uniforms were stripped off and cast on the flames. Much vodka had been drunk. There was laughter and buffoonery, one man, Iakubovich, wearing a plumed officer's hat, high boots, and a short dressing gown down to his knees. The five condemned men had notices saying "Criminals--Regicides!" hanging round their chests. They were blessed by Archpriest Myslowskii, even Pestel (a Lutheran) receiving his viaticum. The ropes were then put on, hoods slipped over their faces, and supports pulled away. Three of the men fell off, unharmed. One of the generals in charge ran up shouting, fatuously, "Faster, faster!" Muravev, rolling on the ground where he had fallen, shouted: "My God! In this hopeless country they cannot even hang people properly." It was the authentic voice of Russia, despairing but also ironic. Moments later all five men were dead.​
                From The Birth Of The Modern, by Paul Johnson
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                • Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                  Plus the Russians are incompetent.
                  Their incompetence is a large part of why they illegally target civilian infrastructure. It is large and it doesn't move so it is the main thing they can reliably hit.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • Y'all have no sense for reality! BTW here's how things were back in the 1700s....
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                    • Originally posted by MOBIUS
                      And yet the Russians have killed fewer civilians in Ukraine over a much longer timeframe than the Israelis have in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon...

                      Neither is it murdering the civilians of a neutral country, or bombing its capital and hospitals 🙄🤷‍♂️
                      I think that the fact that the Ukrainian governement -unlike hamas, hezbollah, and those other shining beacons of freedom and properity- is actually trying to minimize civilian casualties has something to do with the discrepancy in numbers
                      "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                      • Originally posted by MOBIUS

                        Yes Hamas and Hezbollah are literally making the Israelis deliberately target civilians 👍

                        No, but they ARE hiding behind them. The Ukrainian government evacuates its civilians from those areas that see the heaviest fighting. That is the difference between governments and terrorists.
                        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                        • Originally posted by MOBIUS

                          Yes, they're actively trying to kill civilians, but simply don't have the decades of practice the Israelis do
                          Yes, they do. Russia's have always fought this way because they are unable to fight any other way. See Ukraine, Syria, Georgia, and Chechnya (twice). Israel actually takes great efforts not to harm civilians, some people are dumb enough to believe Islamist lies though, and the fact that Muslims actively try to use civilians as human shields. I guess you just aren't smart enough to know about reality though.
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