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  • also half of ukranian cities have greek names


    why? i wonder

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    • cherson chersona ΧΕΡΣΩΝΑ

      it means peninsula


      Oddessa ΟΔΔΥΣΟΣ

      Simply means the citgy of Ulyses

      Mariopole ΜΑΡΙΟΥΠΟΛΙΣ


      simply means the city of virgin mary


      i can go on and on


      bascailly urkaine for some reason is a miniscule map of greek history

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      • it is the same in many other parts of the world. she's nothign special in that regard

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        • I like Sevastopole

          sevastoupolis


          ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥΠΟΛΗ

          the city of reverance


          pretty darn good name if you ask me. very religious and awe inspiring


          we don't have names like that anymore

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            • I'm astonished that Russia hadn't already entrenched massive defence infrastructure to guard against this all up and down the length of the border with Ukraine. They've definitely done so all along the front within Ukraine.

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              • Maybe they don't see their border as some kind of red line
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                • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                  I'm astonished that Russia hadn't already entrenched massive defence infrastructure to guard against this all up and down the length of the border with Ukraine. They've definitely done so all along the front within Ukraine.
                  Technically, they could have build such trenches, but they would never be able to man them whether we are talking of personnel or equipment (tanks, guns etc).
                  With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                  Steven Weinberg

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                  • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post

                    Technically, they could have build such trenches, but they would never be able to man them whether we are talking of personnel or equipment (tanks, guns etc).
                    That has so far still been decisive in blunting Ukraine's counteroffensives all along the front...manned or not

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                    • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post

                      That has so far still been decisive in blunting Ukraine's counteroffensives all along the front...manned or not
                      Technically right, but in practice totally wrong. The Ukrainians hasn't met any unmanned trenches yet, if they had, they would have steamrolled it. The russians can't cover all the front of the Ukrainian/Russian without decimating their military currently active in Ukraine.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post

                        Technically right, but in practice totally wrong. The Ukrainians hasn't met any unmanned trenches yet, if they had, they would have steamrolled it. The russians can't cover all the front of the Ukrainian/Russian without decimating their military currently active in Ukraine.
                        they'd man a well-prepared defensive line with raw green conscripts and even elite well-equipped Ukrainian attacks could be stopped. For that kind of defence manpower isn't as much of an issue. Part of Ukraine's recent woes relate to the far less extensive defence infrastructure that Ukraine was able to place in the way of Russia's counter offensive than what Russia was able to lay in front the the Ukrainian offensive. The over whelming majority of Ukrainian well prepared defences predate the special military operation.

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                        • That they haven't built defensive works demonstrates a special kind of arrogance in Russian strategic planning.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                            That they haven't built defensive works demonstrates a special kind of arrogance in Russian strategic planning.
                            I agree though I would point out that Russia did build much more extensive defensive works in eastern Ukraine. Far more than Ukraine itself has built. I suspect the Russians have concentrated their resources on eastern Ukraine and have let defensive lines in Russia itself go without. They probably thought they were safe and Ukraine would never dare go into Russia itself

                            The reports are kind of worse because supposedly these sections were held by Chechen fake tik Tok soldiers who spent most of their time acting as blocking units shooting Russia conscripts who dares to retreat. Those Chechens ran away the second they heard Ukrainians were coming. The rest were untrained and poorly equipped green conscripts who did try to defend but didn't know what they were doing and many of whom ended up surrendering in mass.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • Originally posted by MOBIUS

                              Maybe to encourage the very kind of strategic blunder that Ukraine is committing...?
                              Or overconfident that Ukraine would be leashed by fear of offending their western benefactors by striking at Russia.
                              Indifference is Bliss

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                              • Originally posted by MOBIUS

                                Maybe to encourage the very kind of strategic blunder that Ukraine is committing...?
                                I think politically this will not play well in Russia regardless of how badly Ukraine wastes resources in this operation. I doubt Putin or senior Russian military leadership would accept any political embarrassment for any amount of material gain with respect to the Ukrainians in the special military operation. That says to me that whatever the reason Russia didn't extensively fortify the border, they probably didn't do so to encourage a Ukrainian invasion of Russia.

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