Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Dinner]

For starters, yes, Konzhal has been shot down to the point the majority of them fired since the arrival of patriot batteries have been shot down and never hit their intended targets. Sure, the falling wreckage can still cause damage but that is not hitting the intended target at all. Start with that clarified fact then we can move on to the next. Also, no, it can't successfully duck and rive as Russian propagandists claimed without losing both speed and altitude so that it no longer can hit it's target. So it's preprogrammed path is just a regular ballistic missile arch which is nothing new this why Patriot shoots them down to 90% efficiency even with just a single battery.

[Serb]

It's only a matter of time, when you will lose this war, Oedrin.
Just like you have lost any other war before.
You are not a Nation of warriors, but a Nation of traders, speculators and thus mercenaries.
And you have used to be one of those mercenaries.
Russia doesn't work like that. That is why we always win in any existential war.

[Serb]

Prove me wrong with facts, not your wet dreams or mindfarts.

[Dinner]

Your Patriot in its latest incarnation had sucked big balls against Kinzhal. There were dozens of Americans or German crew people killed, because Ukranians can't operate them. The destroyed Patriot battery was operated by Westerners with a 99% probability.

And still, you didn't answer - how do you like placing SAM missile battaries inside the megapolice like Kiev and thus using civilians as a human shield?

Ukranian do that all the time, be it SAm, artillery, MLRS or just human prisoners in the basements of the appartment buildings where the took "defence".

Are you proud of those fkers?!!!

See what I mean? Just fantasy land devoid of reality.

[Serb]

This guy is professional, unlike PLATO or Oedrin.

[Serb]

Pay a special attention to 11:45.

[Serb]

I bet you are (the West, I mean), because the human shield tactics is what your "specialists" advised to them to slow us down.
Your a fkn terrorists, just like your puppet clowns.
A pathetic bloody murdering fkers, who can't fight honestly face to face!

[Serb]

For certain they bluff.QUOTE]
We don't!

Your Patriot in its latest incarnation had sucked big balls against Kinzhal. There were dozens of Americans or German crew people killed, because Ukranians can't operate them. The destroyed Patriot battery was operated by Westerners with a 99% probability.

And still, you didn't answer - how do you like placing SAM missile battaries inside the megapolice like Kiev and thus using civilians as a human shield?

Ukranian do that all the time, be it SAm, artillery, MLRS or just human prisoners in the basements of the appartment buildings where the took "defence".

Are you proud of those fkers?!!!

[Serb]

The west constantly upgrades designs and equipment so that they remain state of the art.

Oh, yeah!!!
Like Minuteman-3 and B-52 or many other things like a hundread year old 50 cal. Brawning machine gun or M1911 pistol (the name "1911" speaks for itself, it is the date when it was created), wich was only recently removed from the army inventory.

A constant inovators, my ass!

Russia seems unable to understand that concept this why they were on their propaganda t.v. shows claiming Patriots are the same as the 191 Gulf war only to be shocked to find out their lies were completely untrue.

Now you are playing to be PLATO, Santa Clown!
Repeating his self-proclaiming sh!t word to word!

The latest version of Patriot - Patriot PAC-3 was commisioned in 2001, just 22 years ago. So, it's fairly new by American standards.

[Serb]

Russia routinely lies and massively exaggerates its supposed wonder weapon. Like those Konzhal missiles which are just basic air launch ballistic missiles using essentially 1960's level tech and are not anything new tech wise. This why Patriots routinely shoot down 80% to 90% and sometimes even 100% in an attack despite there only being two full batteries in all of Ukraine.

Yeah! Tell me more of your fancy bullsh!t, Santa Clown!!!

[Geronimo]

For certain they bluff. Keep in mind that there is a history of the US bluffing when necessary as well. I wouldn't take the performance of any system for granted until it is independently physically corroborated in battle.

[Dinner]

The west constantly upgrades designs and equipment so that they remain state of the art. Russia seems unable to understand that concept this why they were on their propaganda t.v. shows claiming Patriots are the same as the 191 Gulf war only to be shocked to find out their lies were completely untrue.

[Geronimo]

Russia routinely lies and massively exaggerates its supposed wonder weapon. Like those Konzhal missiles which are just basic air launch ballistic missiles using essentially 1960's level tech and are not anything new tech wise. This why Patriots routinely shoot down 80% to 90% and sometimes even 100% in an attack despite there only being two full batteries in all of Ukraine.

It might not be as simple as that. The Russians were able to convince India to heavily invest in developing the hypersonic Brahmos-II together with Russia. If Russia had no demonstrable hypersonic tech India would never have partnered let alone successfully tested the Brahmos-Ii.

More likely, Russia built a number of working hypersonic kinzhals but has had difficulty building more recently after depleting the original stockpiles. It could be these latest kinzhals are corner cutting gambles that don't measure up to the original technology.

[pchang]

The concept of maintenance and upgrades (while keeping the same model name) appears to be beyond you. While Russian military trucks may be over 5 years old, we expect the tires to have been replaced every few years. This was a mistake on our part because we thought you maintained your equipment like we do. Now, it looks like you are doing the reverse.

[Dinner]

Russia routinely lies and massively exaggerates its supposed wonder weapon. Like those Konzhal missiles which are just basic air launch ballistic missiles using essentially 1960's level tech and are not anything new tech wise. This why Patriots routinely shoot down 80% to 90% and sometimes even 100% in an attack despite there only being two full batteries in all of Ukraine.