Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[BlackCat]

What is so intersting in another Western propaganda?

Didn't expect you to understand it.

Let me guess, Zelensky was shoutung loud to the entire World that they will never surrender Bakhmut, that it is a turning point in the battle for Donbass, had thrown tens of thousand of reinforcments to keep, but when he had finally failed and Russians took - it is irrelevant now, RIGHT?

Zelensky has never claimed that the Ukrainians wouldn't leave Bakhmut, just that it was so good a killing zone that it couldn't be ignored - still, after pulling out it still is. And mo, Bakhmut is in no way a turning point for neither Ukraine or Russia. And no, there has not been thrown in tens of thousands reinforcements to keep it - sure, there has been a large numer of milling around of units, even soldiers need rest.

A 26K strong Vagner private military company had fked up side and down 54K strong Ukrainian army in the offensive operation, inflicting tens of southands of casualitities, killing 8 Ukranian for one Russian, and now that is an obvious victory for Ukraine, because Joe "where am I?" Biden, has mindfarted something about 100K Russia KIA.

26K ? You seem to forget the 50K prisoners that was "enlisted", died, sent home or just disappeared. Oh, and you seem to have the killing rate a bit wrong - it's 7-8 killed russians per 1 ukrainian.

You are like Hitler's lackey in his bunker, while Red Army was storming Berlin.

You are kind of cute when you write such BS It has taken russia more than six months to take Bakhmut without really harming the Ukrainian army, actually they got bigger with heavier weapons, even took several sqkms north and south of the city - I wouldn't be surprised if the russian army soon are encircled in the city

[Geronimo]

First of all, it's "Kinzhal" (a Dagger), not "Konzhal", you great specialist!

Secondly, I've said it before and will repeat it again - if a debris of a standard ballistic subsonic missile makes a crater of 1/5 meters wide, then only an idiots unfamiliar with the law of momentum could buy the sh!t that the debrist of a missile, travelling ten times faster would live the same crater!
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Well before impact objects of all speeds in freefall converge to their terminal velocity. Intercepted objects almost invariably are in freefall not powered flight. The debris from the standard missile decelerates to its terminal velocity and makes a 1/5 meter wide crater. The debris from the mach 10 kinzhal decelerates to its terminal velocity and makes a 1/5 meter wide crater. The very first small debris from the shuttle Columbia began to be shed at 0858 at Mach 23 then decelerated down to Mach 15 at just 90 seconds later when hull integrity was lost then down to terminal velocity by 0901. The impact speed of all but the most massive meteorites is also terminal velocity. Crater size is determined by impact speed. Crater size is not determined by maximum prior speed, cruising speed, or any other speed.

That is f*cking science, moron!!!

Thirdly, you have to proof about shot down Kinzhal, except the words of one single Ukranian moron, copy/pasted by creaming their pants Western media.
While they have finished to cream their pants about a fairytale of one Ukranian idiot, the Patriot battery incide the Kiev was definitely and demonstratively destroyed!
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This is true. The evidence provided certainly looks consistent with the Ukrainian account but its not impossible that it is all faked. It does appear well established that at least one patriot missile battery remains functional in Kiev, however.

We did it as a demostration of what Ukranian told before is a lie nad your Patriot can't even protect itself, not to mention to protect something else.
And there are sh!tloads of videos of it's firing its missiles to save itself from Kinzhal and then be destroyed (because it's fkn last century system), but not a single proof of Kinzhal, supposingle shoot dow by Patriot days before.

The whole Wolrd has a lot of videos of destruction of your Patriot PAC-3, but not a single proof of shoot down Kinzhal.

All you have is just empty words and empty claims of your Ukranian clowns!
Idiot?
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Every video I've seen of this is laughably false. Possibly the videos you have access to are being blocked by various potential hosts like Youtube. What is it you're seeing that proves that an entire patriot battery was destroyed?

Thirdly, Kinzhal is not a ballistic missile, dummy!
It is at best a quazi-ballistic missile wich travels at hypersonic speed, Mach 10 to be exact and do evasive menevres during its last part of the flight.

That is something you don't have in your inventory.
And only and idiot could believe that a SAM system designed to counter ballistic missiles of the last generation (and proved to be pretty much sucking balls in that duty many times, be it Iraq or Saudy Arabia) has any chance to intercept a whole new class of missile, which travels ten times faster, then a previos one.

You can masgturbate on your sh!t how longer your like, but the fact is that against the Ukranian lies and fairytales Russia has replied with a real anihilation of your Patriot.
Simple, as that!

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Serb, I certainly previously believed and accepted that all of the performance description you posted above was true of the Kinzhal, (although I never believed Kinzhal speed alone would confer any sort of interception invulnerability vs slower interceptors). Russia's military hardware partner India certainly believed that as well. However, its not inconceivable that these "kinzhals" are compromised in some way relative to the original Kinzhals. i

[Serb]

Interesting little chitchat

What is so interesting in another Western brainwashing propaganda?

Let me guess, Zelensky was shouting loud to the entire World that they will never surrender Bakhmut, that it is a turning point in the battle for Donbass He had thrown tens of thousand of reinforcements to keep, but when he had finally failed and Russians took Bakhmut, so it is irrelevant now, in the view of your propaganda, RIGHT?!!!

A 26K strong Vagner private military company had fked upside and down a 54K strong Ukrainian army in the offensive operation in a urban conditions. The Russians had inflicted tens of thousand casualties, killing 8 Ukrainian for one Russian IN OFFENSIVE, and now that is an obvious victory for Ukraine, because Joe "Where am I?" Biden, had mind farted something about 100K Russian KIA.


Keep masturbating, idiots!

You are like a Hitler's lackeys in his bunker, masturbating over the victory of the Third Reich, while the Red Army was storming Berlin.​

[Serb]

You know, Geronimo, I could care less, because I have only a very limited time on this planet left for me. I will left it anyway soon, no matter what.
But, what I care about is children, our (humanity) future generation.
And I know for sure that after we will over with Ukraine puppet, you will throw the whole Europe against us in an insane beliefe that you will be safe and sound!

You will not be safe and sound beyond the pond, idiots!

We will incinerate EVERY, once again, Nazipaik, - EVERY NATO COUNTRY, instead of to be defeated and exterminated as a Nation.

And FIRST OF ALL we will exterminate the NATO's Master - USA!


That is not my fantasies, as a dying person. I am Russian and I know Russians. I know what we are!
And I know that it is will be the case!
We will ****ing destroy any murderers, who wants to destroy us.

You stupid ****ers can't live in peace with us, so you will get your death at the end of the day!

(No offence personal to you)​

[BlackCat]

Interesting little chitchat

[Serb]

Insane, dumb, self-proclaimed to be exceptional motherfkers!!!

[Serb]

There is no way that the special operation constitutes any kind of "existential war" for Russia in the slightest.

Oh, lol!!!

It is an existential war for us!!!

We fight against the whole, united as ever, West, which has Ukraine as a proxy soldier.
If we will lose, we will die. You will rob and kill us, like you did in 1991, but this time - FINALLY.
You brought a final solution for us and masterminded this scenario long before 2014, 2014 was just a first step.​


So, it is not gonna happen.

WE WILL KILL YOU, INSTEAD!

Because, you fkers just can't live in peace with Russia!!!


And, if something would go wrong, we will better incinerate YOU, once again - YOU, Americans, as instigators of this war, then to accept the 1991 once again.

We will never buy your lies once again!

YOU SHOULD MAKE IT CLEAR FOR YOURSELVES!!!

A FKING IDIOTS!!!

You are going to destroy humanity, because of your insanity and self-proclaimed superiority!

DUMB MOTHERFCKERS!!!​

[Serb]

Your sh!t worth nothinng, except the money spent on its PR!

[Serb]

And that was a demonstrative move!
To show the idiots like you and your fellow Western idiots, what their sh!t really worth in a real life, but not in a Hollywood movies and wet dreams of the ones like you.​

[Serb]

For starters, yes, Konzhal has been shot down to the point the majority of them fired since the arrival of patriot batteries have been shot down and never hit their intended targets. Sure, the falling wreckage can still cause damage but that is not hitting the intended target at all. Start with that clarified fact then we can move on to the next. Also, no, it can't successfully duck and rive as Russian propagandists claimed without losing both speed and altitude so that it no longer can hit it's target. So it's preprogrammed path is just a regular ballistic missile arch which is nothing new this why Patriot shoots them down to 90% efficiency even with just a single battery.

Here we go again!





First of all, it's "Kinzhal" (a Dagger), not "Konzhal", you great specialist!

Secondly, I've said it before and I will repeat it again - if a debris of a standard ballistic subsonic missile makes a 1,5 meters deep crater, then only an idiot unfamiliar with the law of momentum could buy the bullsh!t about that a debris of missile, travelling ten times faster would leave a crater of the same size!
It is not fking possible according to Newton's mechanics!


That is f*cking science, dummy!!!

Thirdly, you have to proof your claims about shot down Kinzhals. You have nothing except the words of one single Ukranian moron, copy/pasted by creaming their pants Western propaganda media.
While they had finished to cream their pants about a fairytale of one Ukranian idiot, the Patriot battery inside Kiev was definitely and demonstratively destroyed!
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We did it as a demostration of what Ukranian told before is nothing, but a lie!!!

Your Patriot can't even protect itself, not to mention to protect something else.
And there are sh!tloads of videos of Patriot firing its missiles to save itself from Kinzhal just to be destroyed later by the then be destroyed by Kinzhal, supposingly shoot down by the Patriot days before (according to Ukranian lies).

The whole Wolrd have seen a lot of videos of destruction of your Patriot PAC-3, but not a single proof of shoot down Kinzhal.

All you do you have is just empty words and empty claims of your Ukranian clowns!

Idiot?

Fourthly, Kinzhal is not a ballistic missile, dummy!
It is at best a quazi-ballistic missile wich travels at hypersonic speed, Mach 10 to be exact and do evasive maneuvers during its last part of the flight.

That is something you don't have in your inventory.


And only and idiot could believe that a SAM system designed to counter ballistic missiles of the last generation (and proved to be pretty much sucking balls in that duty many times, be it Iraq or Saudy Arabia) has any chance to intercept a whole new class of missile, which travels ten times faster, then a previos one.
What kind of an idiot you are, really?


You can keep masturbating on your obsolete sh!t as long, as you like, but the fact is that against the Ukranian lies and fairytales Russia had replied with a real anihilation of your Patriot.

Simple, as that!

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[Geronimo]

It's only a matter of time, when you will lose this war, Oedrin.
Just like you have lost any other war before.
You are not a Nation of warriors, but a Nation of traders, speculators and thus mercenaries.
And you have used to be one of those mercenaries.
Russia doesn't work like that. That is why we always win in any existential war.​

There is no way that the special operation constitutes any kind of "existential war" for Russia in the slightest.

[Geronimo]

Your Patriot in its latest incarnation had sucked big balls against Kinzhal. There were dozens of Americans or German crew people killed, because Ukranians can't operate them. The destroyed Patriot battery was operated by Westerners with a 99% probability.

And still, you didn't answer - how do you like placing SAM missile battaries inside the megapolice like Kiev and thus using civilians as a human shield?

Ukranian do that all the time, be it SAm, artillery, MLRS or just human prisoners in the basements of the appartment buildings where the took "defence".

Are you proud of those fkers?!!!

I think its more likely the radar control is near kiev and the launchers are all over. Almost certainly some are near the Russian border to explain those interceptions.

For the record Serb, how do you feel about the enormous SAM hardware within the populated Moscow area? Russia has plenty of military hardware of all kinds in populated centers.

I personally think air defences are fine to place in populated cities, especially those cities which are under air attack.

[Serb]

And you and your idiot Western brothers, lackeys and slaves can bark for all you care. The end is inevitable, really!

[Dinner]

For starters, yes, Konzhal has been shot down to the point the majority of them fired since the arrival of patriot batteries have been shot down and never hit their intended targets. Sure, the falling wreckage can still cause damage but that is not hitting the intended target at all. Start with that clarified fact then we can move on to the next. Also, no, it can't successfully duck and rive as Russian propagandists claimed without losing both speed and altitude so that it no longer can hit it's target. So it's preprogrammed path is just a regular ballistic missile arch which is nothing new this why Patriot shoots them down to 90% efficiency even with just a single battery.

[Serb]

It's only a matter of time, when you will lose this war, Oedrin.
Just like you have lost any other war before.
You are not a Nation of warriors, but a Nation of traders, speculators and thus mercenaries.
And you have used to be one of those mercenaries.
Russia doesn't work like that. That is why we always win in any existential war.​