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Putin is a murderous scumbag, so are all the main players. They are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is who had the moral authority to govern the Donbas. I'm not even sure that authority exists with the people living there, but I sure dont have it. Consent of the governed is a principle based on moral authority and neither Kiev, Moscow or Washington and I have it. Nazis disagreed, they attacked Ukrainians protesting their coup and we armed them. Why didn't this killing and raping happen in Crimea? Because Azov didn't attack Crimea even though the Russians moved in. No, they attacked the Donbas before the Russians moved in. There is no Russian policy of killing and raping civilians, I cant say that for Azov.
Aside from the cannon fodder Washington and Kiev insist on throwing into the meat grinder the people dying over the last decade are mostly ethnic Russians. Our allies hate eastern Ukrainians with a Nazi-like passion, you should listen to our Banderite friends. I have. The post-coup Ukrainian president Poroshenko gloated how Kiev's children will go to school while children of the Donbas cower in basements. Obama caused this war and Typhoid Tony killed millions with a plague. American exceptionalism.
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Your father was a hero and served his country.
But still waiting for proof to back up all your BS nonsense on how Joe wants war and not peace.
Also waiting for you to admit that Putin is not a Hero, but simply a tyrant who invaded another country to grab land.
You never seem to address that his troops have killed and raped so many of the people you claim he is defending.
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He was a merchant marine on a ship torpedoed in the Caribbean. He had excellent vision and math skills so they made him a navigator on B-17s. If he was still alive he'd be told arming Nazis is patriotic by people who never fought them.
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Originally posted by Berzerker View PostMy father risked his life fighting the Nazis in wwii, arming them now to kill Ukrainians would be an insult to his memory
Meanwhile Zionists massacre the innocent in Gaza as Hamas hides in tunnels and apparently being American requires me to supply the bombs. No wonder we armed OBL and ISIS, we are the world's biggest terrorist and 2nd place is eating our dust.
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TOTAL BS. You keep claiming some mythical peace treaty and nonsense about JOE this and that.
And as usual, you have no real proof of any of that crap, yet you keep repeating it as if it will make it true.
Also as usual, you keep making Putin sound like some hero saving people... the people his troops killed and raped.
All of that stuff can be found on alt right and maga websites... yet you keep repeating them as if they were fact.
Yet you claim you aren't maga... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
But I'm sure you will continue to sprout this nonsense.
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Our fathers killed millions of Germans and Japanese based on the principle of self defense. It wasn't Russia attacking the Donbas in 2014, that was our Nazi army. After repeated pleas for help Russia intervened later that year to prevent the Nazis from conquering the Donbas and peace talks began. A deal that would have kept the Donbas in Ukraine as a safe haven from right wing nationalists who want to culturally cleanse Ukraine... You know, our Nazi allies. But Joe really does want peace, he does. Of course peace would mean shutting down much of the money laundering circling back to politicians and donors here at home. Well, much of the money never leaves the country, just goes straight to the people who make weapons.
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BERZ - NOTE: The Russians have killed far more Ukrainians then your claimed Nazis have.
But feel free to continue to make Putin the Hero of Ukraine. Fact, he invaded and is killing and raping the people you claim he is defending.
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My father risked his life fighting the Nazis in wwii, arming them now to kill Ukrainians would be an insult to his memory
Meanwhile Zionists massacre the innocent in Gaza as Hamas hides in tunnels and apparently being American requires me to supply the bombs. No wonder we armed OBL and ISIS, we are the world's biggest terrorist and 2nd place is eating our dust.
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I never made that switch, my position has always been Epps worked for someone else and he bragged to his kin in Arizona about orchestrating the riot. Both can be true. We have video of him issuing instructions to 2 of the men breaching the barrier, that doesn't mean he has no one telling him what to do. Isn't it just a little strange how the Democrats never tried to accuse Epps of working for Trump? Why is that? Hmm... All these other characters are getting lengthy prison sentences for being the muscle behind Trump's insurrection but Epps is defended by Democrats and given a slap on the wrist when he's on video orchestrating the riot.
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