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Russia'd love to have a "peace" that would "freeze" the conflict now that their initial 3-day war turns out to be a never-ending, grueling endeavour... (edit: ooops Dinner posted that earlier already - well it's still true)
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Then why did Boris travel to Kiev to talk Zelensky out of a non-existent peace deal? We were shelling civilians for 8 years after the coup.Originally posted by N35t0r View PostComment
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The conflict was frozen for 8 years and Russia invaded to unfreeze itOriginally posted by BeBMan View PostComment
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The russians could easily unfreeze the situation by pulling out russian units, their equipment and let the Ukrainians taking control over Donbas and Crimea.Originally posted by Berzerker View PostWith or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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The people of Donbas and Crimea dont want to be controlled by UkraineComment
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What about the ones that fled the separatists?I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!Comment
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they fled the fighting when Kiev sent armies to attack protestersComment
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No, they fled when the separatists took over and started slaughtering the pro ukraine people, i know a ukrainian who posts on CFC, who had to flee the russians. BTW the separatists were more Nazi than Azov.I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
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Interesting interview with prigozhin:
Along other comments (from machine translation):- Ukraine has not bombed Donetsk for 8 years, but only the positions of the Russians. All these years Donbass has been plundered, including by employees of the Russian presidential administration.
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You constantly assert they "shelled civillians" for 8 years. Wth does that even mean Berz? Does that mean they wanted the civilians to die? If so given how much better Russia has proven to be at shelling civilians in one year than Ukraine was in eight, it's still obvious sending more arms to the Ukrainian side is the right move if we don't like civilians to die.Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
But really, if your BS about "civilians shelled" for 8 years were anything close to true, the most heavily shelled areas wouldn't be airports, farms and rural villages. Instead Donetsk and Luhansk would look like Mariupol.
Actions speak louder than propaganda Berz.Comment
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Self-proclaimed Tsar Prigozhin reappeared
"Ukraine has not bombed Donetsk for 8 years, only Russian positions. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were not going to attack Russia with NATO soldiers, the Russian Ministry of Defense is deceiving the public and the president."I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!Comment
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Russia making efforts to increase the average IQ of its naval forces in the Black Sea:
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Could this be the beginnings of an exit plan? "Throw Shoigu under the bus!"Originally posted by N35t0r View PostInteresting interview with prigozhin:
Along other comments (from machine translation):- Ukraine has not bombed Donetsk for 8 years, but only the positions of the Russians. All these years Donbass has been plundered, including by employees of the Russian presidential administration.
“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Doubtful. Putin is incapable of admitting defeat.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-ArmsComment
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You're probably right but the point of this somewhat elaborate misdirection would be that Putin wouldn't have to admit defeat just admit having been betrayed by an ambitious Shoigu.Originally posted by -Jrabbit View PostComment
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