Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Geronimo]

Bull****. They attacked first. Nobody "attacked them" because "they didn't support the coup". Arming yourself, declaring independence and seizing public buildings is attacking Ukraine. Ukraine sending armed thugs to take back the public buildings isn't "attacking them", let along "attacking them for not supporting the coup". It's retaking seized public buildings.

[Ming]

They impeached him for delaying weapons to the war in the Donbas to get an investigation of Burisma and Biden.

Exactly... they impeached him for trying to extort the Ukraine government into doing his PERSONAL bidding in trying to take down a political rival. He didn't give a rat's ass about Ukraine, or it's people... JUST HIMSELF.

[Berzerker]

Total bull-crap. Nobody was attacked for "not supporting the coup". Armed separatists were attacked for seizing public buildings and declaring independence. Why do you repeat this crap?

Why did they 'separate'? They didn't support the coup. Protesters seizing public buildings in response to a coup is a protest, I dont know who or when they declared independence because the Donbas agreed to Minsk and that was a compromise to stay in Ukraine. If Russia was the villain why didn't the people of the Donbas turn their guns eastward in 2014 and help Azov repel the Russian invasion? They didn't do that, they were fighting Azov and asking Russia for help.

[Berzerker]

That's not why he was impeached
Can I have some of what you are smoking.

They impeached him for delaying weapons to the war in the Donbas to get an investigation of Burisma and Biden. Apparently Congress declared war on the people living there without making it official because I thought the Prez runs foreign policy.

[Geronimo]

They got our help in 2014 and attacked eastern Ukrainians for protesting the coup. Most of the people killed since the 2014 war are eastern Ukrainians with Russian background and we started it to weaken Russia. That has back fired so magnificently only Brandon or Clouseau could pull it off. Chunks of the planet have had enough of our sanctions and bullying and are forming their own trade blocs. If this was a genocide we'd see it in the civilian death toll from Russian forces. Washington and Kiev attacked the Donbas for not supporting the coup. That fact is inescapable.

Total bull-crap. Nobody was attacked for "not supporting the coup". Armed separatists were attacked for seizing public buildings and declaring independence. Why do you repeat this crap?

[Berzerker]

That's not why he was impeached
Can I have some of what you are smoking.

They impeached him for delaying weapons to the war in the Donbas to get an investigation of Burisma and Biden. Apparently Congress declared war on the people living there without making it official because I thought the Prez runs foreign policy.

[Berzerker]

So you're OK with genocide being perpetrated and don't think it's OK to help them as long as at least one of the people being genocided is far-right. Gotcha.

They got our help in 2014 and attacked eastern Ukrainians for protesting the coup. Most of the people killed since the 2014 war are eastern Ukrainians with Russian background and we started it to weaken Russia. That has back fired so magnificently only Brandon or Clouseau could pull it off. Chunks of the planet have had enough of our sanctions and bullying and are forming their own trade blocs. If this was a genocide we'd see it in the civilian death toll from Russian forces. Washington and Kiev attacked the Donbas for not supporting the coup. That fact is inescapable.

[Berzerker]

I'd say that the flooded area was the hardest hit... After all Crimea managed fine both before the canal was built and after it was shut off once Russia illegally annexed Crimea.

Or would you rather have your house flooded than your tap water turned off?

The flooded area got hit by water, not a loss of water.

[Berzerker]

Yes, The Guardian is propaganda. Trust who you want.

[Berzerker]

Of course, the victims have the right of self defense and that right empowers others to defend them. Thats kinda what our system is based on, cops have the right to protect you from attackers because you have the right to defend yourself. Thats why the people of the Donbas have the moral high ground, they got attacked.

Uncle Sam pays more

[BlackCat]

Considering what that stuff has done to his brain, I'm pretty sure that you don't want to try it

[Ming]

The US waged a Nato backed war on Russia's border for 8 years and impeached Trump for interfering.

That's not why he was impeached
Can I have some of what you are smoking.

[Berzerker]

Russia is supposed to leave Ukraine and let the people go where they want. Perhaps, even rebuild their homes.

How do you ignore 8 years of Nazis attacking eastern Ukrainians? I dont mean to pick on Nazis, I'd feel the same way if we armed ISIS to kill Syrians to change that regime. And I think thats what this war is about, hoping pressure on Putin will lead to another Yeltzin. We invaded a safe haven for Ukrainians fleeing Azov and its allies after their coup. Do you believe the US wanted peace or war? The US waged a Nato backed war on Russia's border for 8 years and impeached Trump for interfering.

[dannubis]

No Mexico doesn't pay in Rubles.

[Ming]

I dont want my taxes and govt arming Nazis to kill people in Ukraine, I dont care what side of a line the victims are on. If there was an anti-Mexican coup in Washington and they sent a right wing army to kill Mexican-Americans in the SW Mexico would have the right to defend the victims.

So you would support Mexico invading the US.