Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Geronimo]

LOL!

Take any recent American invasion being it Vietnam, Yougoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again, Lybia, Syria - every time you have a bullsh!t false reason to justify your war of agression and everytime invaded to rob and punish those countries for dissobeying your dictate.
You are the greatest bloody dictator on this planet.
And the greatest bloodsucking parasite.
A freaking racketeer!!!

I'll take all of those and note that the US refrained from annexing *any* of those countries. If Russia were not laying claim to any Ukrainian territories I'd be much calmer about the invasion and attacks on the Ukrainian armed forces and even infrastructure. Such stupidity can be self limiting because it doesn't actually strengthen the aggressor.

The US *did* directly participate in vast military campaign to carve out Kosovo as an independent state. I note that historically most nations have been far more forgiving for being invaded by a country that eventually left than they have been of countries that took pieces of their state with them. It will not surprise me at all if Serbian resentment towards the US remains far more enduring than the other victims of US aggression even when the fatalities and economic losses were far greater. Imagine how much more bitter the Serbians would be about it if the US had subsequently annexed Kosovo.

Most importantly almost none of those wars should have been allowed. Perhaps Iraq 1991 per UN security council or possibly the Afghanistan war (to the extent that the US truly knew that OBL was directly responsible for the 9/11 attacks) but the rest were international law crimes and stupidities undermining almost all net US interests and even Afghanistan, executed as a decisive country scale intervention in the civil war was probably ill advised as subsequently executed in the occupation that followed. I suppose Vietnam as a defensive operation propping up the South Vietnam state didn't start as a war crime but by the time it ended the US had even managed to turn the prosecution of that war into the scene of various war crimes so I won't add that to the exceptions.

So what's the take away? Russia gets a pass for its ongoing invasion of Ukraine? How Serb?

[Geronimo]

You shopuldn't throw stones, if you are living in a glass house.

You are the World's champion in terms of wars of agression and killing millions of innocent people.

It's fine because I'm throwing stones at any glass houses that earn that honor. I'm certainly not going to spare the one I live in if it needs it.

[Geronimo]

Owerthrowing a legitimate government and establishing a Nazi regime, which sent an army to suppress the righteous uprising against the anti-constitutional coup (inspired, sponsored and supported by YOU) and killing over 15 000 ethnic Russians at Ukraine is a casus belly in my dictionary!

Nazi is as Nazi does Serb. How many countries had the Nazis unilaterally invaded within 8 years of taking power? How many states did the Kiev Nazi regime invade? The Ukrainian Nazis fought a civil war against a separatist insurrection that cost 15,000 casualties *total on all sides* in 8 years. How many people died on all sides in Russia's war against separatists in Chechnya? Why wouldn't that be a casus belli?

Also since when is a coup grounds for a special military operation and for how long? Is a coup always grounds for a special military operation while the coup regime remains in power? What about after internationally observed elections that occur afterwards? How long does a country remain fair game for other countries to invade after a coup and after subsequent elections? forever?

No Serb. sorry. There was no casus belli for the special military operation. not by any treaty and not by any modern precedent.

[Serb]

Are you sure living on this planet?
They are keep retreating since their failed counter-offensive.

[Geronimo]

Full retreat was the Russian military around kharkiv in May of 2022 or The Russian military around Kherson in November 2022. Where do you see such retreats recently by Ukraine?

[Serb]

With an imbecile puppet "in charge".

[Serb]

I'll give you a credit for being the locomotive of progress in the 19th century, now you just degraded to financial parasite, dictator and a bandit.

[Serb]

Not responding to provocations with nuclear retaliation is a good way to promote the national security

Should I remind you that you are the only Nation, which used nuclear weapons?

[Serb]

Name an example. Grenada perhaps? others? How did Ukraine's allies respond to the US invasion of Granada back then? I think you will find examples of such US invasions hard to find.

LOL!

Take any recent American invasion being it Vietnam, Yougoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again, Lybia, Syria - every time you have a bullsh!t false reason to justify your war of agression and everytime invaded to rob and punish those countries for dissobeying your dictate.
You are the greatest bloody dictator on this planet.
And the greatest bloodsucking parasite.
A freaking racketeer!!!

[Geronimo]

The National security is a top priority for any National leader.

Not responding to provocations with nuclear retaliation is a good way to promote the national security

[Serb]

It certainly is not bad and immoral to blame other countries for their invasions. If anything allowing other countries to start wars unopposed because the US starts so many wars will only make it more difficult to successfully oppose US warmongering.

You shopuldn't throw stones, if you are living in a glass house.

You are the World's champion in terms of wars of agression and killing millions of innocent people.

[Serb]

In way shape or form can that US be construed as having started this war. You certainly claim that the US provoked this war but it did not start it. Provoking a war is not starting war.

Owerthrowing a legitimate government and establishing a Nazi regime, which sent an army to suppress the righteous uprising against the anti-constitutional coup (inspired, sponsored and supported by YOU) and killing over 15 000 ethnic Russians at Ukraine is a casus belly in my dictionary!

[Serb]

The Ukrainian's made effective use of all of that kit. none of it performed in any sense as a piece of ****.

Ukranians themselves think otherwise and call your Western tanks pieces of sh!t.

[Serb]

Gee... you invaded, and thought it would be over quick. FACT

What I've said is one thing, what Putin have said is another.
You claimed that Putin wanted to annex Ukraine and do so within a few weeks.
Proove it!!!
When did he said anything like that?

Your moronic leader thought nobody would come to their aid, and he would march right into Kiev.

You surely have a memory of aquarium fish (I mean - very short memory).
The Russians were just 32km away from the center of Kiev, but then withdrew their forces as a gesture of goodwill, because the preliminary peace agreements were achieved in Stambul.
Then Boris Johnson came to Kiev and ordered Ukrainians to fight until the last Ukranian standing. Then Ukranians have cheated as always and after we withdrew our forces from outskirts of Kiev they withdrew their diplomats from the further peace talks.

These are the facts, not your BS claims!

But I guess he was just plain stupid. How long has it been now?

Putin is stupid?

OMG!!!

You've made my day!!!

[Geronimo]

Had UK have a signs of signing a military alliance with Russia or China, you would seen an American invasion without any doubt.
Your statement proves nothing, but UK being an American lackey.

Name an example. Grenada perhaps? others? How did Ukraine's allies respond to the US invasion of Granada back then? I think you will find examples of such US invasions hard to find.