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  • Originally posted by BeBro View Post

    Random thoughts:

    As for nuke threats: while they are always serious when coming from a country that uhm...has nukes, Putin seems to overruse them. He started with the nuke excercise on the weekend before the invasion, which was obviously a clear, and public signal. Later he warned of "consequences you never seen before " in case of interference, and, as a 3rd step, talked about alert levels being raised. So question is: are they really serious in the end.

    Historians point out that in the past all of the more serious crisis involving possible nuke-use began in silence early on - there were no public announcements that Russia would put missiles to Cuba (it was found out by US recon), and no public warnings when Russia misinterpreted Able Archer 83 as not a NATO excercise, but a real build up for war.

    So the thinking goes that those public threats are not serious, at least for now, unless there's credible recon/intel of changes in posture of those nuclear forces. Which could change tho. So quite some text for saying

    But so far Switzerland has concluded the risk is low, so I'm cool with that
    Yeah, I agree with most of that. I think it is a warning for NATO to keep their militaries out as Putin knows the Russian army isn't up to that caliber of opponent.

    I don't think Putin is insane enough to start a no-one wins nuclear exchange, I just think he miscalculated. If he is actually insane enough to do that we can only hope the subordinates tasked with carrying it out have at least on ounce of self preservation instinct and refuse to comply and toss the madman out.
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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      • Originally posted by Serb View Post


        Who the f*ck are you to think about yourself that you are smarter than Putin?
        I don't think Putin is either stupid or insane Serb. He is a rather accomplished authoritarian thus far.

        I do think that he seriously miscalculated in this instance. My hunch is, as I mentioned earlier, he is the sort of leader that causes his advisors to hesitate telling him the truth and offering sound advice. Trump was similar in this respect.
        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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        • What wars NATO has ever won, you idiot?!!!

          You are nothing, but a fkn clowns and a butchers, who can't deal with a third World countries!

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          • That is a f*cking reality - you worth f*cking NOTHING!!!

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            • Originally posted by Wezil View Post

              I don't think Putin is either stupid or insane Serb. He is a rather accomplished authoritarian thus far.

              I do think that he seriously miscalculated in this instance. My hunch is, as I mentioned earlier, he is the sort of leader that causes his advisors to hesitate telling him the truth and offering sound advice. Trump was similar in this respect.
              Once again - who the f*ck are you to lecture Putin?!

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              • Who the ---- are you?

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                • I'm not lecturing Putin. Unless he is actually posting or lurking here.

                  I'm not even lecturing you (on this issue anyway). I'm just stating what it looks like to me - Putin stepped into a steaming pile of dog poo and I'm trying to come to a rational explanation how that could have happened.

                  You are trying to convince me that Putin is a madman willing to destroy the planet but I'm having trouble accepting that.
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                    Putin has painted himself into a corner. The invasion is turning out to be an incredibly bad idea and no one close to him can speak truth to power.


                    edit, also :
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                    • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                      I'm not lecturing Putin. Unless he is actually posting or lurking here.

                      I'm not even lecturing you (on this issue anyway). I'm just stating what it looks like to me - Putin stepped into a steaming pile of dog poo and I'm trying to come to a rational explanation how that could have happened.

                      You are trying to convince me that Putin is a madman willing to destroy the planet but I'm having trouble accepting that.
                      What madness are you talking about?
                      Imagine a guy with a musket who approaches you and start to suffocate you, while keep saying - stand still until I kill you.
                      And you have an assault rifle.

                      What the **** would you do in this situation?

                      You kill the dumb brainless mother----er!

                      Simple as that!

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                      • That dumb brainless mother****er is you (the West)!

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                        • (c.) Geopilics for Canadian dummies

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                          • Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another.
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • Originally posted by Serb View Post

                              Who told you that?
                              This is a Cold War dogma.
                              Our strategis forces is a generation ahead!



                              Who said anything about 1000 megatonn warheads?
                              We need only a few hypersonic ICBMs to paralaze you and force you to surrender.
                              Like it really matters if our cities get vaporized a couple minutes before yours do.

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                              • We will intercept most of your ICBMs.

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