Not A Word About D.C.?

[Serb]

[Dauphin]

It would really be amazing if your examples were anything like the way he talks, but they aren't. You lie.

FFS Kidiot,there are hundreds of examples. How about this:

Trump said: “I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that’s close to a spy.” Trump continued, “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”

[Serb]

I've listened to them for a 20 minutes
What a f*cking circus of imbeciles!!!
No wonder you country has gone insane!

FACEF*CKING PALM!!!

Oh, Boy!!!

[Serb]

You don't even realize what kind of imbeciles you are for any outside observer!

And this is your LEADERSHIP?!!!

Oh, GOD!!!

[Serb]

A monkey with a grenade!

[Kidlicious]

FFS Kidiot,there are hundreds of examples. How about this:

Trump said: “I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that’s close to a spy.” Trump continued, “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”

It's actually true that a spy like that should be seriously punished. But I was talking about his speech on 1/6.

[Kidlicious]

Prove it's a whistleblower! Spy!

[-Jrabbit]

Quite notable that where Trump says "close to a spy," you immediately refer to this person as a straight-up "spy." That's how Trump works. He suggests something, and blindly loyal dupes like you accept it as God's Truth and spread the lie (or in this case, smear). Also, your "prove it!" routine is getting really tired.

[Kidlicious]

It's the deep state, a spy.

[Serb]

A mutiny as it's written in dictionary!

I've seen the same circus of imbeciles during late 80's in the Soviet parliament.

You never learn, Americans!

And now your country rapidly going into the abyss!

BON FKN VOYAGE!!!

[Serb]

Pathetic idiots!

[Berzerker]

Lt Col Vindmann was buddies with Clapper and Brennan and part of the apparatus to drive a wedge between Ukraine and Russia. Trump was a threat to that agenda. Thats why he reported on the phone call. If that was Obama, Clinton or Biden on the phone making demands on Ukraine he wouldn't have cared. Wasn't Vindmann around when Biden was telling Ukraine to fire a prosecutor if they wanted a $1 billion loan guarantee? He's deep state and will undoubtedly find a nice new job in the Biden administration.

[Berzerker]

“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.

“So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.” - Chuck Schumer

So much for 'democracy'

[Jon Miller]

. Wasn't Vindmann around when Biden was telling Ukraine to fire a prosecutor if they wanted a $1 billion loan guarantee?

It was done openly, which doesn't mean it is right, but does mean that people knew about it. And the action was supported and the preferred action by our European allies, and so entirely different than Trump's call.

I agree that we (other than Trump) and our European allies wanted Ukraine to be more European and less Russian. I don't see anything especially nefarious about that, it is just geopolitics. Biden's action (the prosecutor fired) was to do this, but Trump's desired action (Ukraine claiming that Biden was being investigated for corruption) would have been about Biden's candidacy and Trump's re-election and not directly about Ukrainian-Russian relations. The Trump call was not a problem because it didn't put a wedge between Ukraine and Russia, rather it was because it was trying to use the power of the US to influence a foreign power to influence our election against Trump's opponent (who is now the President elect and who will be president in less than a week).

JM

[Uncle Sparky]

During the campaign Trump had the media in for a phone call with Netanyahu* where he basically asked for an endorsement, while sitting in the Oval Office... Abuse of power.
* Netanyahu didn't take the offer.

[Serb]

It was done openly, which doesn't mean it is right, but does mean that people knew about it. And the action was supported and the preferred action by our European allies, and so entirely different than Trump's call.

JM

Are you fkn nuts? The people knew about that only because the leaked tape of the call (recorded by Ukranians).
Biden demanded to fire the presecutor general of the foreign state, because he was investigating the corruption in Ukranian unit of Burisma, where his drug-addicted son got 50K USD every month for just nothing, just for being among the executive officers on the list.

[BeBMan]

Re DC I also think Marvel did a better job in recent yrs.

[Uncle Sparky]

So with all the insurrection in the US, do the FBI and military really think they can keep the Trumps safe in the US? Maybe they should take them somewhere less accessible... Does the US still have a secure base at Guantanamo?

[Jon Miller]

Are you fkn nuts? The people knew about that only because the leaked tape of the call (recorded by Ukranians).
Biden demanded to fire the presecutor general of the foreign state, because he was investigating the corruption in Ukranian unit of Burisma, where his drug-addicted son got 50K USD every month for just nothing, just for being among the executive officers on the list.

I remember hearing about it back in 2016, and when I looked up news from 2016 I found references to it. EU and US were both pressuring Ukraine for the prosecutor to be removed and there was much celebration in EU/US over his removal. It was in the open.

There have been many parties, both Ukrainian and otherwise, who say that the corrupt prosecutor was not investigating corruption in Burisma. This was after the fact, sure, but still. Since there was already non-corrupt (political, but not-corrupt) motivation (See above) then corrupt motivation seems to not be motivated.

JM