Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[Kidlicious]

Bills have to be paid Ming or future generations become debt slaves.

[Ming]

Straw man...
Americans are dying every 33 seconds, and your agenda is to make money...
But I guess as long as you don't get sick and die, and you get to stay comfortable by not wearing a mask and thinking everything is normal and you can act like you want, you are OK with others Dying...
And yeah, I'm up for protecting our children and their families by TEMPORARILY closing schools until we get this under control. If we get this under control by everybody simply doing the common sense things, they will be back to school soon enough, and it will BE HEALTHY AND SAFE for them and their families. The alternative is more deaths, more hardship, and a much slower recovery to when we can actually be back to normal.
But feel free to blindly accept that all the debt Trump has passed on to our children, with a lot of it coming from tax breaks to his rich buddies and himself is a good thing...

[Kidlicious]

It's the debt/gdp that you need to be looking at. That what I just told JM, which you seem to have not read. That ratio has exploded during the pandemic. It's higher than ever (over 100%). You propose just to keep increasing it at the same rate, without restarting the economy. You also propose not letting students go back to school, which you don't even deny damages their long-term ability to pay for the debt that you are piling onto them.

You have some kind of strawman going. You aren't defending your position with anything.

[Ming]

The fact is that your agenda is horrible for America, piling debt onto children and future generations. You're destroying American culture, turning the country into something more like Communist China. You are teaching children that they aren't entitled to go to school and have a normal life. You are brainwashing them to blame other Americans, including the President, instead of China.

And that's just the tip of the iceburg.

First, as JM pointed out, Trumps agenda has been piling more debt onto children and generations than previous presidents
So this BS that it doesn't change anything is just BS... But as usual, you blame the Dems for something that Trump is doing.
Nice try...

And talk about Destroying American Culture... Let's start with all men are created equal... For Trump, all men are created equal as long are white and are christian. He has constantly shown his disdain for all other groups by his words and actions.
And how about "“Give me your tired, your poor,/ Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”... our country has thrived due to immigration... but now, unless your "kind" is approved by Trump, Trump doesn't want you.
And then there is "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." Trump, the draft dodger is only interested in himself and what America can do for him...
And talk about turning the country into something like Communist China, we have Trump destroying democracy and trying to destroy the constitution with his lame attempts to stay in power, kind of like most would be dictators...
Oh, and PLEASE point out who is "teaching children that they aren't entitled to go to school and have a normal life"...
Keep schools closed is a temporary measure to protect more Americans from dying, but then again, we know your attitude on American Dying... It's ok as long as you are comfortable.

And finally... "You are brainwashing them to blame other Americans, including the President, instead of China."

Again, sure, the virus originated in China... but the President and other Americans aren't doing everything they can to slow down the virus and protect other Americans, and that's a FACT. But I guess in kidland, saying the truth means brainwashing if it doesn't support the spoon fed propaganda being spoon fed to them by the right.
Blaming China is a waste of time... especially when you try to add in wack job conspiracy theories like it was done on purpose to keep Trump from getting elected or it was done on purpose to destroy America and the World Economy. Please let us know when you can actually prove that instead of just tweeting it.
What isn't a waste of time is doing everything we can to slow the spread until enough vaccines are available to help us to possibly get this under control so we can live normal lives.

Your iceberg is more like an crushed ice...

[Kidlicious]

Donald Trump: As of the end of FY 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt since Obama's last budget.

4/3*6.7= 8.9 trillion per 4 years.

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 73.6% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget in 2009.

8.588/2= 4.3 trillion per 4 years.

George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

5.849/2= 2.9 trillion per 4 years.

Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 31.6% increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget.

1.396/2= 0.7 trillion per 4 years.

Looks like Trump is by far the worse.

JM
https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-b...ercent-3306296

None of this changes the real issue, which is that long term damage is being done to the capacity of America to produce, including children's education, which is reducing their future capacity to produce and pay off this debt (which the government is incurring in their name.)

[Broken_Erika]

Pffffft! Everybody knows that mathematics have a liberal bias to them!

[Jon Miller]

Donald Trump: As of the end of FY 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt since Obama's last budget.

4/3*6.7= 8.9 trillion per 4 years.

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 73.6% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget in 2009.

8.588/2= 4.3 trillion per 4 years.

George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

5.849/2= 2.9 trillion per 4 years.

Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 31.6% increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget.

1.396/2= 0.7 trillion per 4 years.

Looks like Trump is by far the worse.

JM

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

[Kidlicious]

The fact is that your agenda is horrible for America, piling debt onto children and future generations. You're destroying American culture, turning the country into something more like Communist China. You are teaching children that they aren't entitled to go to school and have a normal life. You are brainwashing them to blame other Americans, including the President, instead of China.

And that's just the tip of the iceburg.

[Ming]

I don't push an "agenda"... I leave that to the Trumpettes...
I like to deal in real facts... Covid is a serious problem in the US.
Please point out which of those facts I posted you consider Fake News...

[Kidlicious]

Is that how you show that you don't push the left-wing agenda?

[Ming]

If that we so you wouldn't constantly repeat the fake news lies that the fake media (with an agenda) repeats.

Gee... you used FAKE twice in the same sentence... you must feel you are really losing...

So which is fake... that Americans are dying... one about every 33 seconds (latest figures)
That covid continues to spread...
That practicing common sense things like wearing a mask, social distancing, avoiding large crowds, washing your hands can slow down the spread of the disease...

So which of these "fake news lies that the fake media repeats"... please enlighten us...

[Kidlicious]

You must not know anything about it.

[BlackCat]

Are you trying to make people think that the Chinese and others aren't putting out disinformation? Because that's what the Chinese do.

Nah, that would be believing in fake news - they are probably on par with Trump.

[Kidlicious]

Interesting little tweet :



The same happens if there are larger superspreader events, but since it's science and math, then Kiddy probably will call it fake news invented by the chinese and promoted by dems.

Are you trying to make people think that the Chinese and others aren't putting out disinformation? Because that's what the Chinese do.

[Kidlicious]

I have a simple agenda... SAVE AMERICAN LIVES
Your agenda also seems simple... I WANT MY COMFORT AND SCREW everybody else.

If that we so you wouldn't constantly repeat the fake news lies that the fake media (with an agenda) repeats.